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Posted: 24/01/2013 19:39:34
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Not really a new member, been lurking on here for a while but I've decided to upload a few images in order to at least contribute something. Based in Ayrshire so slim pickings due to living on a massive coal field however, a bit of travelling and there's plenty of interesting sites to explore. Aside from a few off forum explorers, are there any other folks this far north of the border?

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Posted: 24/01/2013 20:04:31
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Welcome!

Thanks for posting those photos, surprised to the locations for some of them.
They are a few on here from north of the border who post occasionally.

I've changed the subject to include a rough location, it should help.



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Posted: 24/01/2013 20:50:44
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Welcome Pyro. IP: 86.25.223.140
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Posted: 24/01/2013 21:19:56
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Welcome Pyro. If live North of the Border,but usually I am all over the place.
Tyndrum is a good start, do not know if you went all the way up the ladderway I must admit I bottled out from the route over the stope, but it has been done.
I would suggest you get in touch with Grampian Speological group.
They are not just cavers. They have done lots of mine exploration even some plans. They have a site on the net and list both Scottish mines and their journal.
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Posted: 25/01/2013 01:17:23
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There is limited access to Gasswater, plus there was at least one level open at Muirshiel a good few years ago, so those should provide a change of diet from the usual coal mines. Although I live in Castle Douglas my other half comes from Kilmarnock so I know theres not a lot of mine exploring to be done there!! IP: 109.157.40.223
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Posted: 25/01/2013 10:43:51
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Hi Pyroninja. I'm in the Irvine Valley (Nr.Darvel). Yes, it's a bit of an underground desert around here. Last time I was sniffing around Gasswater, the area had been blatted big time by opencast workings.

The Leadhills/Wanlockhead areas used to be quite rewarding to have a mooch around. I helped with a bit of clearance work there a few years back. All seemed sealed tight as a drum, when there last November. The Estate gamekeepers there have eyes like sh*thouse rats btw ! Their parentage is highly questionable.

Apologies for insulting our "real" furry rodent friends. Big Grin

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Posted: 25/01/2013 13:27:35
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Cuban Bloodhound wrote:

Welcome Pyro.


Ahhh Cuban! Seen a few of your shots on here from ages ago but didn't realise you were active.

moorlandmineral wrote:

There is limited access to Gasswater, plus there was at least one level open at Muirshiel a good few years ago, so those should provide a change of diet from the usual coal mines. Although I live in Castle Douglas my other half comes from Kilmarnock so I know theres not a lot of mine exploring to be done there!!


I've yet to have a look at Muirshiel although I don't hold out much hope for it. Still worth a look though. Cuban and I had a look at Douglas fireclay mine down the road but the adits have been sealed with concrete.

John Lawson wrote:

Welcome Pyro. If live North of the Border,but usually I am all over the place.
Tyndrum is a good start, do not know if you went all the way up the ladderway I must admit I bottled out from the route over the stope, but it has been done.
I would suggest you get in touch with Grampian Speological group.
They are not just cavers. They have done lots of mine exploration even some plans. They have a site on the net and list both Scottish mines and their journal.


We missed the ladder! We were aware that other levels exist but didn't have the time to explore them. Will have to go back and have another look. I've talked to a few of the GSG guys briefly, will need to get more acquainted with them.

Pinzgauer wrote:

Hi Pyroninja. I'm in the Irvine Valley (Nr.Darvel). Yes, it's a bit of an underground desert around here. Last time I was sniffing around Gasswater, the area had been blatted big time by opencast workings.

The Leadhills/Wanlockhead areas used to be quite rewarding to have a mooch around. I helped with a bit of clearance work there a few years back. All seemed sealed tight as a drum, when there last November. The Estate gamekeepers there have eyes like sh*thouse rats btw ! Their parentage is highly questionable.

Apologies for insulting our "real" furry rodent friends. Big Grin


Ah you're near Darvel? I'm just down the road in Kilmarnock. Went to have a look at the Gasswater mine a few months ago but the track I was walking along belongs to the opencast mine whose security team told me I couldn't walk there and then escorted me off site. Didn't even get as far as the Gasswater workings. Do they still exist or have they been obliterated by the opencast?

Yeah I've heard tales of the gamekeepers, almost sounds like the Leadhills are a lost cause. There's the drainage level for the Bay mine but I don't know if that is passable.

Thank you all for the warm welcome! Greatly appreciated.
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Posted: 25/01/2013 13:36:46
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There's a road slightly to the south of the valley the Gasswater workings are in, goes to a small hamlet, you can take a track over the hill to the mine workings, much shorter than walking from the main road anyway... As you walk down the track towards the workings you can see a level on the opp side of the valley, it is open. If you are interested pm me we are thinking of going back in the spring anyway. If you go n the adit, immediately branches in 2... The left hand branch actually gets to a large stope, goes from below the sole of the level up, when we go back will take a camera upload it on the site, a think theres a the possibility of climbing a hopper too, maybe up to higher workings... However, main reason to go back is there is at the far end of the track an adit that is open BUT has water backed up to the roof, needs a good clear out. I seem to remember we were told this adit goes to workings if we could get in!!!
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Posted: 25/01/2013 14:05:10
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The shorter track would have been the wiser option, we opted for the longer track simply to enjoy a long walk and do a recce just to check the state of the mine. By the time we got back to the car after being escorted we couldn't be bothered going round the other way. It certainly sounds a lot more promising than I had imagined! Would definitely be up for a look come spring. IP: 94.1.67.187
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Posted: 26/01/2013 21:51:41
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I thought there was general land access (not underground obviously) in Scotland except some cases such as farm yards, growing crops, areas where you would have to pay to go in etc.

There's lead mines at Glen Sannox on Aran. I had a drive about last November, but didn't manage to look at the mines due to weather, family in the car etc.

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Posted: 30/01/2013 23:35:46
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Welcome to the site Pyroninja Smile Really enjoy looking through your photos Thumbs Up IP: 95.147.206.74
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Posted: 01/05/2016 20:00:26
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Any of you guys still active ? Interested in Gasswater its know locally as the brytice or whiteyards. IP: 78.151.167.51
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Posted: 03/05/2016 15:50:02
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Yeah there's still a bunch of us kicking around. Ayrshire sadly doesn't have too much to offer as most of it is a deep mine coalfield and what is available is either very small or flooded. Nice to see some stuff from Gasswater, need to get back and have a look. That open stope, if memory serves, has some rails and old tools, it's collapsed but there's an ore pass or shaft that may allow access to lower levels. IP: 81.137.11.222
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Posted: 03/05/2016 16:44:35
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I found the place you put picture up of a wheen o years ago when out with my dogs there was a lot of it still open bk then but I never bothered looking inside Because I was on my own. Managed to get a mate to go with me yesterday water was near waist deep had a good look inside couple of pick heads a bucket and a sort of pinch bar inside . the place with the chute thing must go to higher levels looked up and its blocked with three boards and rocks. IP: 78.151.167.51
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Posted: 03/05/2016 19:40:30
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Hi Marinecore,
Good for you on posting up the Gasswater photos.
You might not know that a plan of these mines, and a section, is to be found in the wartime memoirs of the BGS.
On page 29 of Barytes in Scotland.
This plan seems to be reasonably accurate, although I cannot vouch that all of the adits shown are open, but work with a shovel may encourage this!
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Posted: 03/05/2016 20:36:02
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Thanks john . I'll have a look at that from what I've learned locally it was opencasted in the early 80s for a short while and that might have blocked a lot of passaged ? There are two shafts near the burn that might lead somewhere but I don't have climbing gear to check . I'll be having a proper search for possible entrances asap as I've permission to come and go as I please.Thumbs Up

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Posted: 03/05/2016 21:48:20
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Hi Pyro,

I'm based down in Ayr and I've got friends who do a lot of cave diving and we're looking to find flooded mines etc that we can explore.

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Posted: 03/05/2016 23:11:33
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Marinecore wrote:

Thanks john . I'll have a look at that from what I've learned locally it was opencasted in the early 80s for a short while and that might have blocked a lot of passaged ? There are two shafts near the burn that might lead somewhere but I don't have climbing gear to check . I'll be having a proper search for possible entrances asap as I've permission to come and go as I please.Thumbs Up


Haven't seen the shafts before, are they open? If there's something to anchor on then they could be checked out. The permission angle is interesting, have you got vehicle access up there? Looking at the plan it looks like the shafts are the way to go as much of the workings are below adit level.
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Posted: 03/05/2016 23:21:57
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Don't think there's really much worth looking at in Ayrshire, nothing suitable for diving. There's Barjarg limestone mine south of Thornhill which has a flooded section, there's a tunnel, presumably for drainage/running the water wheel that was in there, which is submerged. No idea where it goes, could go to other workings! IP: 82.28.183.176
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Posted: 04/05/2016 08:51:18
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Yes can drive right to it . bit rough 4x4 needed .

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