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Author Maenofferen Quarry - RCAHMW video
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Maenofferen Quarry - RCAHMW video
Posted: 03/10/2012 17:14:33
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I'm not sure if this has already been posted or not, but I stumbled across what appears to be the computer generated animation of Maenofferen that was commissioned by RCAHMW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imagW-UGN0U&feature=related

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Maenofferen Quarry - RCAHMW video
Posted: 03/10/2012 17:39:29
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I am not sure about all the grass and the way the loco descends an incline at the end!
Must have had good brakes.

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Maenofferen Quarry - RCAHMW video
Posted: 03/10/2012 17:59:26
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Pretty good really ,considering it is made with a computer. 1000 times better than I could do anyway.
Regarding the loco going down the incline at the end. I think the driver must have dropped off to sleep or forgot to stop at the top of the incline.
Must hit at least 80mph when it reached the bottom Big Grin

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Maenofferen Quarry - RCAHMW video
Posted: 03/10/2012 19:30:41
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Yeh not as good as the last one, and I noticed a few in-consistencies, like when the wagons leave the adit towards the mill, there is no reference of the tunnel that should fork to the left into mill level. Minor niggles though, a fairly impressive undertaking all in all. IP: 90.221.35.153
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Posted: 03/10/2012 19:57:36
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Overall pretty good, but Rustons at Maen Offeren never had cabs (although one of the Hibberds or Motor Rails did). The wagons at the end are totally wrong. IP: 2.99.20.58
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Posted: 03/10/2012 20:39:56
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Also the Greaves dressers are rotating backwards, and the operation of the brine rheostats is wrong - the shaft shouldn't keep spinning after the lever has stopped working.

But for the layman, it's very good.

Chris.
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Posted: 03/10/2012 21:01:51
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Very impressive, but a couple more niggles to add to those already noted ...

- The ascending wagons on the incline have the cable still visible behind them.

- The waterwheel spokes look rather thick.

Dave
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Posted: 03/10/2012 21:32:43
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A very creditable bit of work, other than a couple of minor niggles.

The rendering of the hillside is one thing I'd mention - it's a wee bit smooth.

If anyone has iOS 6 running on an iPad, I'd encourage them to have a look at Maenorreren / Foty / Llechwedd in the new Maps app.

Whilst Maps has had a lot of justifies criticism, the 3D rendering when it does have the resolution to use is utterly stunning and the detail is staggering when the map is tilted over.

The Foty pit is very distinct and I think the imagery was taken the winter after the fall as there's snow on the ground and the road has been diverted. Even the three collapsed chamber roofs are rendered properly and it's obvious where they have been working away at the tip above the pit.

Well worth a close look.

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Posted: 03/10/2012 22:44:54
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I have already emailed RCAHMW to point out a few errors. It is obviously not the finished item as there is no sound track.

What I might do is leave it a few days and email them again with errors others have pointed out. I already mentioned the erroneous rope in my email Dave.
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Posted: 04/10/2012 10:06:01
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This animation was posted earlier in the year to try to gather information from this community to help refine it. Many useful comments were received at the time, and it should have been taken down after a couple of weeks.

Many of the issues that were raised back in July (and here!) were addressed in subsequent versions the animation.

The Atlanterra project which funded this animation is scheduled to finish early next year. Please send any further feedback to the Royal Commission general enquiries email address.
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Maenofferen Quarry - RCAHMW video
Posted: 04/10/2012 11:45:45
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davel wrote:

Very impressive, but a couple more niggles to add to those already noted ...

- The ascending wagons on the incline have the cable still visible behind them.

- The waterwheel spokes look rather thick.

Dave


Not knowing this Mine/Quarry,but being an Ex Miner,were Main and Tail haulages used here?
If so,that would be the reason for the rope attached behind the journey,
If not,there should have been a Bar Hook attached behind for safety.
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Maenofferen Quarry - RCAHMW video
Posted: 04/10/2012 12:43:18
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No main and tail - haulages above and below ground in the slate mines were generally single ended. Continuous running cable was only used at Rhosydd (I'm prepared to be corrected if anyone knows any others) with gripper trucks. The thing with all the other inclines was - stand clear while hauling (crewling in the vernacular) was in progress!

Rope haulage underground on the flat/slight inclines tended to be simple haulage uphill (rope or loco) and usually gravity assist downhill.

Penrhy Quarry's vertical water balances (which had flat chains and later flat wire rops) did have smaller conventional connecting chains hanging under the cages and passing round sheaves at the foot of the shaft however for balancing.

Cheers

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Posted: 05/10/2012 13:00:20
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Video has been removed by user *!*:****

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Maenofferen Quarry - RCAHMW video
Posted: 05/10/2012 13:04:08
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Probably everybody pointing out errors!

More likely they're making a few tweaks based on the feedback.

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