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dangerous dave

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Posted: 23/09/2012 10:02:50
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just a silly question im struggling to show the full perspective of the adits with the standard method of open shutter and wave a torch about like a loon. what else can people recommend as i wanna go back to cligga head and try and light the large chambers properly to show the size and scale.
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Posted: 23/09/2012 10:14:22
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Having people in shot is usually the best bet.

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Posted: 23/09/2012 11:55:41
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Have people in shot with manual flashes, turn off headlamps, open shutter, one, two, three, flash, close shutter, headlamps on.
Careful positioning of people and flashes usually adds depth to the picture, randomly placed slave flashes triggered by the manual ones can also add to the effect.
I used to use camera on tripod with cable release to avoid judder, can you fit a cable release on a digital camera?

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Posted: 23/09/2012 12:04:56
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think its going to come down to using many lights placed round the stope and a person placed to add perspective and then open the shutter.

regards to camera shake i use two second timer and mirror up delay to stop shake
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Posted: 23/09/2012 21:25:10
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exspelio wrote:

I used to use camera on tripod with cable release to avoid judder, can you fit a cable release on a digital camera?


Radio triggers are far better. They can usually work both as a Flash trigger, and a remote release.

Yongnuo RF-602's are available to fit most brands, and are cheap at £20ish for the initial TX and RX, and about £10ish for an additional RX (One needed for each flash). Don't let the name put You off, they are awesome little pieces of kit.

In addition, Mirror lock up, and a decent (non-shaky) tripod also help to get a nice crisp shot.

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Posted: 23/09/2012 21:27:38
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looking at getting some constant lighting set up and then taking panoramic shots and stitching the images together to give a better show of perspective and scale
found this site that gave me the idea http://www.speleo-foto.de/index-e.html
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Posted: 23/09/2012 21:57:21
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What lens/lenses are you using? Techniques of composition vary with different focal lengths.

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Posted: 23/09/2012 22:08:07
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rikj wrote:

What lens/lenses are you using? Techniques of composition vary with different focal lengths.


ive done similar things before in daylight so that is no issues just getting the lighting is the problem that needs to be the same thru the sequence else it will look odd
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Posted: 24/09/2012 00:27:44
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This was was taken in Cligga using a Canon A1 + 28mm lens, loaded with Fujichrome 100 ASA and lit with one flashgun with a guide number of 45.
To fire the flash I used a FireflyII slave trigger on the main flash and triggered that from the camera with a small flashgun GN about 12 or 15 (at a push) fitted with an infra red filter so as not to light the foreground.
Cligga is great place to experiment with photography, just be careful not to disturb the bats.



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Posted: 24/09/2012 01:32:22
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Just a bit more on the Firefly slave trigger (no! I'm not an agent) they are a cracking piece of kit and very low maintenance - change batteries every 2 years approx.

I've had mine now for about 10 years and I still have a Firefly 1 that works. Here'a few pics if you haven't seen one of these beasties. I paid £30 for mine and they are not too much more now, however....the digital version for cameras that have metering pre-flashes are about twice the price, but are programmable.
Try the web site -

http://www.fireflyelectronics.co.uk/pages/info.htm#BF1SPEC



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As mentioned above, I've had mine for 10 years and they have been completely trouble free Cool ..... more than I can say for the flashguns though Sad

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Posted: 24/09/2012 12:32:43
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Ive got the nikon CLS system and flashes used em to shoot this


i just find the tall narrow stopes hard to show the full scale. tho have an idea to place a mate on the start of the large one coming off the contact shaft in cligga on level two let him light from there and i will attempt to access it from level one and shoot from there
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Posted: 24/09/2012 14:17:14
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Same sort of effect as using a fellows head torch. IP: 94.196.97.43
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