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Posted: 16/05/2012 23:09:21
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Just been reading an article on the deal that has just been completed between Cornwall Council and WUM. Part of the deal is that CCC is now going to restore New Cooks Kitchen headgear - what is probably one of the most iconic structures in Cornish Mining. Fears were that it was destined to end up as a lot of scrap metal. IP: 90.219.230.75
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Posted: 17/05/2012 02:06:16
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YAY!!! Saved at last! Perhaps CCC do have some brains after all Flowers



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Posted: 17/05/2012 11:23:07
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I wonder if they'll take out the guides like they did at Robinsons.

It will look very odd Hollow. But some architect type consultant will probably think that it would be more iconic reduced to a more simple form.

Gentlemen, place your bets.
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Posted: 17/05/2012 12:52:22
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I went to look at Robinsons Headgear to see what they had done to it.
Looked like they'd been at it with sanders, and metal paint and possibly some minor welding, but hard to tell. Which is more that can be said for the winder house.
I couldn't be bothered to wait for ages, while enough people queued up outside to warrant the guide unlocking the doors to look inside. To be fair the whole place comes across as "we ran out of money or money was cut 3/4 way through the project".
...and not to mention the failure of the car park and the new "dundance lane street car parking" creating gridlock....
Glad to hear headgear will stay but I hope some of the other historic buildings will remain.

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Posted: 18/05/2012 03:08:43
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I'm hoping they restore both headframes at Cooks and not just the main one.
Perhaps they are going to raise the restoration costs by scrapping the smaller one. Sad

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Posted: 18/05/2012 07:17:50
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I would be highly surprised if they did something stupid like that - if you stripped the North side (which probably does not need much work) it would look terrible without the capstan winch wheels that were on that side originally. IP: 90.219.230.75
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Posted: 18/05/2012 07:30:10
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if they remove the north frame the south one will fall over Laugh

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Posted: 18/05/2012 11:02:28
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You may laugh, but somewhere or other, I have seen a picture with just the South Frame. Rather odd looking (and probably temporary).

I'd say given the lot at the council, they are likely to celebrate it's dynamic creativity in a new paradigm by painting it orange or perhaps cladding it with stainless steel sheets to make one of those awful sundials they seem to leave when their creativity for other crap art has run out!
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Posted: 19/05/2012 08:18:59
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Excuse my ignorance but was the smaller frame for the cage and the larger for ore carriers?

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Posted: 19/05/2012 09:26:40
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On its initial construction there was just the south side (The large side), at that time NCK was the main ore raising shaft with Robs principally for men. In the mid 80's a plan was put in place to centralise operations around NCK, a new dry was built at NCK and the shaft was refitted. The North winder was installed and the smaller North frame erected. Prior to the on the North side the sheave wheels for the capstan winch were in place.

After refitting, North winder was used for ore hoisting operations and South for men.
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Posted: 19/05/2012 20:31:07
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I'm certain I've seen the wheel with the rope on (north side) doing something at odd periods. It most certainly wasn't revolving in the wind! IP: 46.208.46.203
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Posted: 19/05/2012 20:32:48
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Thanks Knocker for the info.
I have a close up photo which I took in 2006, but it still isn't clear even from this.


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Posted: 19/05/2012 22:52:35
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Stuey, there is a small winch currently using one of the North sheaves which is used for taking materials underground.

What you have in that picture Dolcoathguy is a picture of the headframe from the Southern side. The two compartments to the left are the man riding compartments using south winder and the two to the right the rock compartments from North winder. As you come up Dudnance lane from the traffic lights, if you look up at the sheave wheels you will see the Lower ones (North) are offset to the left of the 2 higher ones. The shaft is a typically Cornish rectangular shaft arranged in a 4x1 format - it is a really tight shaft for the size of the mine! When you consider the size of Allens at Geevor and Roskear and Williams, which are monstrous.
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Posted: 19/05/2012 23:32:00
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good news! glad somones 'taken ownership' at last. going to look odd without the guides though... IP: 90.217.81.239
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Posted: 20/05/2012 00:37:26
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stuey wrote:

I'm certain I've seen the wheel with the rope on (north side) doing something at odd periods. It most certainly wasn't revolving in the wind!


I used to park my bike between the north shear legs!
not sure I would now
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Posted: 20/05/2012 08:44:00
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Nobody knows what the extent of the restoration is going to be yet - there is a good chance that all the guides will remain in situ. With the deal thats been done, I would not entirely rule out that it may be restored to a fully usable condition - South winder is being kept in situ and the shaft is still in use.

The council appears to be bending over backwards to accomodate the mine on this one - as I understand it the deal has included the payment of approximately £1.5 million from the Council to the mine, the handover of the new council depot at Forth Kegyn (The mine is currently transfering the stores and the offices to there), the handover of all the land that is required for the new mine facilities, the restoration of the engine houses (This was a planning condition imposed on the mine for the new processing plant), the demolition of all of the old buildings (Excluding the listed buildings and those remaining in WUMs hands) and the handover of an area of land at Roscroggan. All this is in exchange for the land needed for the new road.
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Posted: 20/05/2012 10:44:25
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Interesting but it must depend on what is being built around the Headgear. Anything residential and they would get complaints about noise if it was used regularly. I just hope they don't build more industrial units, there are more than enough empty ones on the existing industrial estates.
I thought I spotted a scooptram in the council's old depot walking from Cooks Kitchen to Tesco yesterday.

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Posted: 20/05/2012 10:50:05
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The plans include a visitor centre in the area immediately around the headgear, the road will be literally outside where the steps to the rear of the North Winder are. If the headframe were to remain in use, I could only see that being for the purpose of occasional hoisting of materials or men - maybe secondary egress route. The noise from winding operations came from the ore skips discharging, the winders don't make a huge amount of noise outside their houses. IP: 90.219.230.75
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Posted: 20/05/2012 12:15:56
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interesting to see the detail about the erection of the North winder. I remember the headframe as it was when I left Cornwall in 1977; I did think it had changed in appearance but wasn't sure why.

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Posted: 20/05/2012 12:24:44
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It is very unlikely that the headframe will ever be used again.

The only likely furture use for the shaft is ventilation and heritage....

Just what we need more heritage sites Guns

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