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Posted: 11/05/2012 02:37:25
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Question: Was the engine house at Wheal Harriett built by Dolcoath Mine or was it absorbed by them as the mine expanded?



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Posted: 11/05/2012 12:47:00
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I'm sure you've looked at Morrison's book.

I'd put my money on it being a Dolcoath one, rather than a Wheal Harriet one. It's modernish.
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Posted: 11/05/2012 12:54:42
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"Harrietes Lode" was owned by Dolcoath in the 1860's.

But I believe "Wheal Harriet" or "Wheal Harriette" was a mine at the southern end of Carn Entral heading towards Condurrow.

The picture is the Pumping Engine House at Harriet's Shaft which is confused with Wheal Harriet. I am pretty sure this engine house was owned by Dolcoath when it was built.

But this is off the top of my head, will have to consult Allen B's book when I get home!

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Posted: 11/05/2012 20:58:32
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Yep The 60 inch Engine house was built in 1860 and was part of Dolcoath at the time.


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Posted: 11/05/2012 21:37:14
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I think the answer will be found amongst the pages of Mr Buckley's legendary book on the mine ! Shocked

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Posted: 11/05/2012 23:49:41
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Thanks guys. This is stuff I should know myself but my books are packed away whilst I decorate, which is a right pain in the derriere. Cursing
My question was probably a little badly constructed too. My curiosity was about the shaft. Morrison notes that the shaft -Harrietts - was being deepened at a rate of knots. I wondered whether it was a remnant of old Wheal Bryant and was being slashed out as well as deepened.
As for Wheal Harriett, Harris didn't do history any favours by marking Harriett Shaft as Wheal Harriett on his map.
This has led to confusion and at times, arguments as Wheal Harriett proper is over toward Carn Entral and not Pengegon.
Which reminds me, I must move the pictures from the Wheal Harriett user album to Dolcoath where they properly belong. Flowers

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Posted: 12/05/2012 08:35:15
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Interestingly Allen B's book mentions that the shallow tunnel system through which launders supplied water to water wheel pumps were found to run between Dunkin Garden's and Harriett's shaft. This water wheel system was documented as already up and running in the 1760's implying that there may have been a shaft at Harriett's in that era.

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Posted: 12/05/2012 09:09:29
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Out of interest, before the shaft plugging programme started, were any of the shafts open, or were they previously capped?

I wonder if there is anything on or near the sett which is open. (Eastern Valley shaft not included).

Interestingly, you can see a lot of markers on this shot:-

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.216889&lon=-5.280532&z=18.1&r=0&src=msl

It appeared that in the 90s, it was preferred to plug shafts, even if they were open/potential bat roosts thus Wheal Basset, Bucketts, Buller, Binner Downs, North Penstruthal, etc, etc were totally plugged without exception. I wonder whether Dolcoath was one of these, or whether there was nothing there for starters.

I would love to go for a poke around in there.
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Posted: 12/05/2012 12:56:02
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Some of the shafts at dolcoath were definately open and with absolutely no guarding. I still remember my brother riding his bike across a plank of wood on New East shaft! IP: 90.219.230.75
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Posted: 12/05/2012 17:50:46
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The shaft capping reports from Cornwall Archaeological Unit are in the back of the Cornwall Studies Library. I can't remember seeing any of the Dolcoath ones, however there were several which I remember had existing concrete slabs (near the council building IIRC).

Reading the reports about places like Wheal Bucketts (see Roy/Keith's photos of their poking around in there) makes me wonder what on earth was going through the council's minds. Bucketts should have had at least one Batcastle....

Personally, I'd put a cornish hedge around the shaft with a grille over the top and teach kids that mineshafts are dangerous, rather than this nanny state overkill.
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Posted: 13/05/2012 01:54:45
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stuey wrote:

........Personally, I'd put a cornish hedge around the shaft with a grille over the top and teach kids that mineshafts are dangerous, rather than this nanny state overkill.


I agree whole heartedly; I also wonder what effect the plugging of shafts has on the hydro dynamics of the adits / water levels etc. I believe leaving them to breath is the better option.
I remember seeing a heavy cap dislodged with great force after a bout of severe rain opened a shaft in the bottom of a watercourse, and several tens of thousands of gallons poured down it. The raised air pressure in the workings simply blew the cap off.
A pneumo-hydraulic event that was educational if nothing else. Smartass




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Posted: 13/05/2012 08:47:17
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I was lucky enough to get a picture of Harriet's Shaft before capping in the mid 1990's
http://www.cornishmineimages.co.uk/index.php?p=1_46_Dolcoath-Mine-Gallery
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Posted: 07/10/2012 11:48:23
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There has been a shaft/adit open up only yesterday at the end of Dolcoath road latitude 50.215911 and longtitude -5.283913 and i have pics if required, it followed heavy rain overnight. If you require pics or any firther info let me know. IP: 90.206.3.219
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Posted: 07/10/2012 12:40:25
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Awesome. IP: 31.185.134.128
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Posted: 07/10/2012 12:56:48
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Its Dunkin's garden shaft (Dolcoath)- Cops fenced it off yesterday morning. It was capped in early 90's (1992?) so would be interesting to know if the cap went or the remains of the shallow adit system (c20ft down?) next to shaft went.
Anyhow not a big collapse at the moment.....
I have always been a little concerned about the shallow adit system (the one that supposedly may have connected the old water wheels and only 20ft down) and its potential collapse and hope this is not a foretaste of the rest of the system starting to go! (well actually would be quite interesting!)

They are planning on building a new road on top or very close to this shaft.

Would be good to see pics Dave. Have you got one of the hole that has opened up?

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Posted: 07/10/2012 12:57:05
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We'd better go and have a look on Monday before we get a phone call ... Smile

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Posted: 07/10/2012 13:06:53
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I am most certainly going to have a look at this tomorrow.

I most certainly will not be going down it, as that would be exceedingly poor form, considering the corporate responsibility of Western Union Mines.

Now, where did I put my high viz and hardhat?
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Posted: 07/10/2012 14:58:08
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Stuey, Personnally I blame the council !

The hole is all fenced off with rent-a-fence and police tape, and to be honest not much to see, however I will be reporting it in when I get to work tomorrow.

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Posted: 07/10/2012 21:55:30
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Dave, I'm sure I and others, would like to see your picture. Smile

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Posted: 07/10/2012 22:06:35
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The hole is almost rectangular, a few feet across.
It is maybe 20 - 15ft west of the shaft marker.
There is also some slight depressions just to the west of it directly under the fence - not sure if they were there before.

A photo in the public domain of the shaft plugging by Carnon condolidated in 1990's shows 2 shafts next to each other, so this must have been a wide plug.

The shallow adit system is suspected as being to the east of the shaft. But the hole is west of the marker.

Not sure if the marker is 100% centred on the shaft.
Is this the first relatively modern cap on Cornwall to fail or have others from the 80's and 90's failed?

West is left on the photo





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