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Author The Libiola Copper Mining CO. L.t.d.
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Posted: 11/12/2011 22:52:42
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Greetings to all users of this forum by Granet.
For several years, unfortunately I'm trying with little success,
news about the British company that handled the copper mine
Libiola, near Sestri Levante (Genoa) in Italy.
The few I've found are on "The Investors' Review"
and "The Mining Magazine" year 1919.
The "The Libiola Copper Mining Co. Ltd. ", the company has Worked to copper mines in Northern Italy since 1867.
The reserve at December 31 was estimated at 5785 tons of copper ore, and 35560 tons of pyrites.
beyond these, a few other news.
I would appreciate it if you can give me some more help.

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Posted: 14/12/2011 09:48:29
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Think i've probably got some refs, will look them up.
Times Online comes up with 187 hits for "Libiloa Copper".
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Posted: 15/12/2011 06:14:42
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Hello Alasdair Neill,
I do this research for many years
I tried searching on Times Online but to no avail,
I would be very grateful if you could give me some information or help more. Roll Eyes
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Posted: 15/12/2011 06:20:00
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The "The Copper Mining Company Ltd Libiola" was the owner
This copper mine near Sestri Levante from 1870 until 1950,
in this period has produced more than one million tons of copper ore,
The richest part was transported by sea to the ports of Newcastle and Swansea.
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Posted: 15/12/2011 09:21:31
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The company was listed on the Stock Exchange, so in theory there should be company reports etc. lodged in the Guildhall Library (Stock Exchange Library), London.
There are refs. in the Mining Journal, I have picked up the following:
1877 p. 39,160,197
1878 p. 138
1880 supplement 31.1.80 p. 4.
There is probably lots more, I have just indexed the first month or so up to 1883 but it would be a big task.
Did you manage to access Times online? If so I would have thought to have picked up the refs. I found.
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Posted: 15/12/2011 11:53:13
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Hello Alasdair Neill
Unfortunately, Italy in Google Books "The Mining Journal" is displayed only snipped
and thus is not available. And so many other publications on
mining in 1800.
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Posted: 15/12/2011 11:59:28
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tried it on and also TimesOnline.Uk and TimesOnline.com,
but unfortunately to no avail.
I do not know what else to do Crying Crying Crying
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Posted: 15/12/2011 20:38:23
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The online index for "The Cambrian" newspaper of Swansea (www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=6197) gave no hits although shipping arrivals from relevfant ports may well have been reported - seaching would require access to microfilms or hard copies however.

The online search facility for "The London Gazette" (www.london.gazette.co.uk/search) gave five hits. Although brief, some of the information looks useful.

"The Copper Handbook, vol.5, 1905" an American investor's guide, gives the company a useful looking half page with dense detail (http://www.nbmg.unr.edu/scans/9999/99990008.pdf)

W.H.Weed "The Copper Mines of the World", New York / London, 1908, gives only a brief mention of this mining company (p.102).

A trawl of the Swansea copper ore ticketing data in R.Hunt "Mining and Mineral Statistics" (published annually from 1855 to 1882 and available on google books - links have been posted on two earlier threads on this forum) might possibly list sales of ore produced by this company.

The most useful publication by far though is likley to be "The Mining Journal", as noted up-thread.

Good luck with your research!

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Posted: 16/12/2011 12:00:23
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Hello Graig Fawr
Thanks for the information of the "London Gazette",
I tried to write a mail archive Gov.Uk. Swansea,
in the event that they have some news for me.
Thanks also for "The Copper Handbook," which I already knew.
Instead I can not find are here for free consultation
"The Mining Journal."
Could you kindly tell me some link to access the publication.

Thanks again for the help
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Posted: 16/12/2011 15:30:06
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Although not available on line Skinners Mining manual (published annually) would no doubt be of use. IP: 81.153.84.227
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Posted: 16/12/2011 17:55:45
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@granet: the 'swansea.gov' web address is for Swansea City Council; the online index to 'The Cambrian' newspaper was compiled by the city library. The city library is most unlikely to have any information specifically on the Libiola company. The last known run of copper ore sales records (known as the 'Swansea ticketings') were destroyed when Swansea was bombed during the second world war. Scattered copper ore sales information survives amongst the archives of some of the Welsh copper smelting companies, some was published in The Cambrian newspaper and in the Mining Journal but whether any of these sources mention the Libiola company could only be determined by undertaking a protracted search of these sources.

Relatively few archives of Welsh copper smelting companies survive and none are complete. They are to be mostly found in three archives: the National Library of Wales, the West Glamorgan Archives, and the Richard Burton Archives at Swansea University. Not many of them contain copper ore sales or purchase records for the period that the Libiola company operated I'm afraid, and it would be a matter of luck whether a specific smelting company had bid for, or purchased ore from the Libiola company. It would be necessary to trawl through the records yourself to try and find a mention of the Libiola company I'm afraid. The most promising smelting company records to consider for a search would be the 'copper ore offer' books of the Llanelly Copperworks Company which consists of two huge volumes detailing all ore that the company bid for in the mid nineteenth century; these volumes are within the 'Nevill Manuscripts' at the National Library of Wales. All of the Nevill mss. have been microfilmed.

Regrettably, I'm not aware of any online access to the nineteenth century volumes of the Mining Journal. Very few runs of this journal exist. Some volumes were microfilmed around the 1970s but the company that undertook the filming no longer seems to exist and no one seems to know what happened to the master microfilms. There have been a number of discussions proposing digitising the nineteenth century volumes but as yet this has not occurred due to the enormous cost.

Another title that may contain useful information is 'The Mineral Industry', an annual summary off the world's mining and smelting industries published in New York from 1892 onwards. I checked the first twwo volumes (1892 and 1893) today but there was no mention of the Libiola company. However, as the years passed, this publication became less exclusively focussed on mining in the Americas and increasingly carried useful summaries of companies and mines operating in many other parts of the world. It is however something of a matter of luck whether a specific mine or company is reviewed. The period from the late 1890s to the first world war would be the most promising run of volumes for you to check. Unfortunately this publication does not seem to be available online.

Have you checked company registration records in the Uk National Archives? There's a good online catalogue of holdings. Its something of a matter of luck whether the registration records for a specific company have survived intact or whether the records will have been partly 'weeded' or entirely destroyed but its worth checking. Registration records for defunct companies are in the archival class 'BT31' and BT41'. It is also worth checking 'BT31' and 'BT34' which contain the accounts of liquidators of companies.

Another possibility to check is UK Consular Reports. British consols all around the world compiled frequent reports on trade and on the economy of the regions in which they were based. Sometimes these can contain a lot of detailed information on how specific companies or mines were performing. Most were published by the UK government; online access to all UK government publications is available to major institutions that subscribe to the the relevant online provider (Gale, I think) or on microfilm; otherwise it is necessary to track down one of the few surviving full runs of 'British Parliamentary Papers'. Full runs are only found in the very largest UK libraries.

Two books that you might find useful are: (1) J.Orbach 'A guide to tracing the history of a business', 2nd edition, Philimore & Co Ltd, 2009, and (2) J.Armstrong & S.Jones 'Business documents: their origins, sources and uses in historical research', Mansell Publishing Ltd, London & New York, 1987.
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Posted: 18/12/2011 21:36:48
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Thank you for your suggestions and help,
undoubtedly continue to look for.
On a small book printed in Italy about thirty years ago,
which tells the story of the mine,
says that London has been named a road to the mine
of Libiola " The Libiola Street", but I made a friend
Note that the "Victorian London Street Index" does not exist and is not
never been a street with that name,
You confirm?
thanks again
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Posted: 19/12/2011 00:10:42
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Neither the 'A to Z street atlas of London', nor 'the Ordnance Survey London atlas' show a street named after Libiola.

Suggest you google London Metropolitan Archives, the Guildhall Library, and the Corporation of London Records Office to find their email addresses, and ask these institutions whether they can recommend sources of nineteenth century comprehensive lists of London street names.
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Posted: 19/12/2011 11:51:59
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One place to start looking for the possible street name would be some of the indexes that have been done for the various 10 year censuses of the UK between 1851 and 2011. I've just tried to have a look at the 1881 Census but sadly it refuses to work with Windows 7.

http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/LND/

... would be a good place to start.

Also Granet have you had a look at some of the Italian newspaper digital archives ? I did a quick search on the La Stampa digital archive site for rame (copper) and Libiola and turned up several references.

http://www.archiviolastampa.it/

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Posted: 20/12/2011 11:45:11
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Hello Imageo
Thanks for the advice or information,
I had already searched in the archives of Italian, but with few results
and information.
Here we have this mine and the company that seems to work
that is no history and no one knows anything.
Historical memory is lost, no books, no pictures,
No indications.

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Posted: 20/12/2011 12:34:58
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Here's a snippet about archaeolgical work on the site.

Maybe you could contact some of the names mentioned here.

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/archaeology/research/projects/current/libiola.aspx

and here's a whole page of links
http://metagini.com/location/Italy/Libiola/169986/Web%20Links/

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Posted: 20/12/2011 21:22:58
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Hello Yorkshireman
Thanks for the links and advice contact
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Posted: 01/01/2012 10:53:01
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Happy New Year to all forum members,
I would like to ask some help for my research,
concerning the way that should exist in London,
someone has already said that in Victorian London Street Index
there is no " Libiola Street".
A few days ago the son of an old miner, who many years ago,
was invited to London, along with others, invited by
daughter of the former director of the mine,
told me that he had seen in the city of finance and its
eye on the plaque dedicated to the Libiola.
If someone can give me some more information
for further research.

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Posted: 06/01/2012 08:08:19
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I've just received Archive CD Books giant 50% off sale blurb but this link may be of interest to you, granet. Lots of street directories of London on CD:

http://www.archivecdbooks.ie/acatalog/lnd-directories.html

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