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Ty Gwyn

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Posted: 01/06/2011 01:52:29
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The Rail bending device you mention,is called a Jimcrow
In South Wales Coalmines.

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Posted: 01/06/2011 09:23:29
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Also know as "Jim crow" in North Staffs Smile

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Posted: 01/06/2011 09:33:32
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Known as "nicked" in Surrey on account of it not being there any more. Angry

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Posted: 01/06/2011 10:26:14
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Jim Crow in the North as well, although the picture is of one for narrow gauge track. We have a larger version for use on standard gauge rail, but then up here we are Real Men ... Cool IP: 81.107.48.60
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Posted: 01/06/2011 11:45:15
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We`ve got one of the Bigger versions,for Jimmin heavy gauge rails,60lbs`ers,2ft 6in to 3ft across,
You Northeners must have big B---s ,its a Heavy ******,

The one in the photo ,looks like the Medium-Normally used Jimcrow,as we`ve got a pair of the Small ones,just over 1ft across,but the frame seems more rounded.
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Posted: 01/06/2011 11:59:33
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Many years ago I was offered a "Jim Crow" by the then managing director of Maen Offeren Slate Quarry. The term is widely used.

Regrettably, I declined his offer.
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Posted: 01/06/2011 12:02:53
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The one that remained underground at Maen Offeren (on Floor B) until a couple of years ago has vanished too. It was of a slightly unusual design (as I mentioned on here previously). I am still keeping my eyes open! IP: 78.150.254.43
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Posted: 01/06/2011 21:59:08
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Ty Gwyn wrote:

We`ve got one of the Bigger versions,for Jimmin heavy gauge rails,60lbs`ers,2ft 6in to 3ft across,
You Northeners must have big B---s ,its a Heavy ******,


Laugh In Bangor we just put the rail over our knee and bend it.... Laugh Laugh ....and we eat 3 Weetabix for breakfast....and then we eat the spoon! Laugh



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Posted: 01/06/2011 22:10:10
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sinker wrote:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

We`ve got one of the Bigger versions,for Jimmin heavy gauge rails,60lbs`ers,2ft 6in to 3ft across,
You Northeners must have big B---s ,its a Heavy ******,


Laugh In Bangor we just put the rail over our knee and bend it.... Laugh Laugh ....and we eat 3 Weetabix for breakfast....and then we eat the spoon! Laugh



We`d best give you a shout when we start on the heavy gauge rails then,maybe you could make some rings for us?
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Posted: 01/06/2011 22:35:04
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yep its a jim crow in cornwall aswell

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Posted: 01/06/2011 22:35:50
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We`d best give you a shout when we start on the heavy gauge rails then,maybe you could make some rings for us?

.....you DO NOT want to know how we make those...... Shocked

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Posted: 02/06/2011 01:18:53
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Yup! A Jim Crow without a doubt; this is a crappy picture of mine below. This one is about 2 feet across and I used it recently to pull out a dent in the top rail of a trailer..worked a treat!



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They were also called Jim Crows when I was a B.R. apprentice at Horwich in Lancashire, way back in nineteen hundred and frozen to death. There were some so big that apprentices would run away in terror, much as they did from the double handled 56lb sledge hammer nicknamed 'Monday' Laugh

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Posted: 02/06/2011 01:37:22
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Roy Morton wrote:

There were some so big that apprentices would run away in terror, much as they did from the double handled 56lb sledge hammer nicknamed 'Monday' Laugh


Because no one could lift it on Tuesday. Big Grin Laugh Laugh

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Posted: 02/06/2011 01:44:41
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You got that one right !!! Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Posted: 02/06/2011 01:50:47
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What the Fitter/Turner I started with in 1964 told me when I enquired. Big Grin IP: 81.107.136.218 Edited: 02/06/2011 03:08:37 by Morlock
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Posted: 02/06/2011 20:49:52
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They were also called Jim Crows when I was a B.R. apprentice at Horwich in Lancashire, way back in nineteen hundred and frozen to death. There were some so big that apprentices would run away in terror, much as they did from the double handled 56lb sledge hammer nicknamed 'Monday' Laugh


Haha yes!

We used to use the Jim Crow for bending 4" steel pipes and ducts when they needed a gentle "kink" to get round a tight spot. We used to ram the pipe with wet sand or a timber mandrel to help stop it deforming when bent! Shocked
Actually amazes me the things that we used to do regularly....if you asked a young pipelayer to that these days he'd probably tell you "not in my job description....!"
Hey this should be a whole new thread....old farts talking about "the good old days" Roll Eyes

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Posted: 02/06/2011 21:57:40
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Hey this should be a whole new thread....old farts talking about "the good old days" "

I strongly object to insulting descriptions like this - I am not old!
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Posted: 03/06/2011 01:03:11
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Sinker wrote - Hey this should be a whole new thread....old farts talking about "the good old days"

Simonrail wrote - I strongly object to insulting descriptions like this - I am not old!

I wrote - I seem to be farting more the older I get !! Sad Shocked Laugh at the current rate of progress I should be classified extremely hazardous by 2020. Shocked

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Posted: 03/06/2011 11:14:48
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don't have a jim crow, but I have seen pipeliners bending a 12" pipe ( in Libya in the 1970s ) by wedging one end under a dozer chassis, putting a timber block against the track as a stop, a pipestrop round the open end and pull away with a second dozer.

Works better than you might think, but on the whole I was happy that the resulting bend would be installed miles from anywhere..



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Posted: 07/06/2011 18:58:47
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Ty Gwyn wrote:

We`ve got one of the Bigger versions,for Jimmin heavy gauge rails,60lbs`ers,2ft 6in to 3ft across,
You Northeners must have big B---s ,its a Heavy ******,

The one in the photo ,looks like the Medium-Normally used Jimcrow,as we`ve got a pair of the Small ones,just over 1ft across,but the frame seems more rounded.


When my grandfather started underground in a small level around 1910 he was sent on typical fool's errands that used to be played on apprentices in industry and on collier boys in coal mines. He was sent a mile or so to the local steelworks to borrow a Jim Crow. On arriving he realised he had been duped but persuaded a shunting engine driver to put it on the footplate and to trundle up to the colliery sidings where he duly pushed it off. He returned undergroundd and announced that he had carried the Jim Crow as far as the sidings but that he needed a hand to carry it the last part of the distance. He never explained how he's got the Jim Crow to the colliery and attempts to dupe him with fool's errands were makedly less commonplace thereafter.
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