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Posted: 10/01/2011 17:01:31
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Looking at some spare bottoms bought in the 1970s they had a quality problem with the "Solid Drawn Brass" bit at one point!
Fairly sure they were not abused in any way.



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Posted: 10/01/2011 17:15:03
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All good reading Smile

I did a web search before posting and apart from a few photos couldn't find anything other than the briefest of information about the company.

Carbide ordered. I shall steer clear of drains, toilets and sea gulls Shocked

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Posted: 10/01/2011 18:00:23
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When Premier ceased production Phil Brown of caving supplies bought all the tooling. He kept and still has the tooling for the cap lamps whilst he sold the tooling for the hand held lamps such as the king to "someone in Germany". From my point of view this was a bit of a problem as I was after reflectors for a couple of my kings. For some of my other lamps I have fabricated reflectors from th ebottom of old camping gas canisters, however I couldn't find one to fit the king. In 2007 I was in Clausthal in the Harz when I stumbled across a shop specialising in mining lamps. Much to my surprise the chap who owned the shop had bought the King tooling and I was able to buy several nice brass reflectors.

Helmet mounted "stinkies" can be tempramental beasts:

To get the best out of them make sure that you break the carbide up small enough - 10 - 20 mm dia lumps are good for small lamps.

Make sure that the O ring is sound - I once tried to use a split O ring by tightening the lamp up as far as it would go - when I sparked the thing up is was engulfed in flame, which my fellow explorers found highly diverting.

Don't trust the on board flint lighter, they are c**p - take a nice modern piezo fag lighter with you.

A pricker is essential, even with the best will in the world your jet will soot up.

Make sure that you have a good solid modern back up
light.

Using carbide lamps is an art, one that takes time to learn - good luck and have fun


IP: 81.135.13.143 Edited: 10/01/2011 21:18:20 by Tamarmole
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Posted: 10/01/2011 18:23:19
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'King' reflectors were a problem when Premier ceased trading, the reason my 'King' and 'Cleveland' lamps have the same reflector.

I'm guessing the lamp in my pic is an early model 'King'?











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Posted: 10/01/2011 18:51:56
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Morlock,
In your second photo,is it a King thats in the Centre on the table?
If so,they were the ones my Father and the other Colliers used,but Never saw a reflector on any of them,they either had a Hook or a Chain for hanging up.
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Posted: 10/01/2011 19:27:15
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Ty Gwyn wrote:

Morlock,
In your second photo,is it a King thats in the Centre on the table?
If so,they were the ones my Father and the other Colliers used,but Never saw a reflector on any of them,they either had a Hook or a Chain for hanging up.


I think it's an early 'King', would have had the reflector in the pic.

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Later models seem to have a simplified stirrup clamp (bottom of page).

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IP: 86.23.127.251 Edited: 10/01/2011 19:28:41 by Morlock
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Posted: 13/01/2011 23:45:57
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That takes me back. i used to go under the Mendips on a carbide lamp. Still have them somewhere.
Out of curiousity where does one buy carbide these days?
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Posted: 14/01/2011 00:02:10
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Montacute wrote:

That takes me back. i used to go under the Mendips on a carbide lamp. Still have them somewhere.
Out of curiousity where does one buy carbide these days?
Bob


Caving Supplies: [web link] Innocent

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IP: 95.148.11.113 Edited: 14/01/2011 00:07:27 by SimonRL
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Posted: 14/01/2011 01:46:56
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Found this one on an American website brand new still in it's original box it sold for $52 but nice photo's


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Posted: 14/01/2011 13:29:49
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The pressed reflector wing nut dates it as a fairly late manufacture, the earlier models had a more solid machined affair. IP: 82.26.193.240
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Posted: 21/01/2011 18:15:38
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It would appear Premier also made Davy type lamps.

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