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james cartwright

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Posted: 07/10/2009 19:48:17
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The last time i was underground i thorght it might be a nice idea if there is engough intrest to plan a traditional style candle light mine trip to experience what it would have been like for the men back in the day.i was thinking northwales would be most convienent.let me know what you all think IP: 88.104.78.142
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Posted: 07/10/2009 19:54:22
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I've never looked at the small print but I would rather suspect that it wasn't consistent with BCA insurance.

it would be interesting as an experiment for a little while but more trouble than it was worth for a trip
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Posted: 07/10/2009 19:59:12
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james cartwright wrote:

The last time i was underground i thorght it might be a nice idea if there is engough intrest to plan a traditional style candle light mine trip to experience what it would have been like for the men back in the day.i was thinking northwales would be most convienent.let me know what you all think
sounds like a good idea James Have you thought of setting a date Big Grin

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Posted: 07/10/2009 20:26:15
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derrickman wrote:

I've never looked at the small print but I would rather suspect that it wasn't consistent with BCA insurance.

it would be interesting as an experiment for a little while but more trouble than it was worth for a trip
you have a point but im not to worryd as some of the cap lamps i used would be out performd by a candle and as i had a slate mine in mined for the venue i dont think fire damp will be a problem Laugh
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Posted: 07/10/2009 20:29:36
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martymarty wrote:

james cartwright wrote:

The last time i was underground i thorght it might be a nice idea if there is engough intrest to plan a traditional style candle light mine trip to experience what it would have been like for the men back in the day.i was thinking northwales would be most convienent.let me know what you all think
sounds like a good idea James Have you thought of setting a date Big Grin
Hi no i havent set a date yet i was hopeing simon R.L would help me with choosing a safe convinent venue.so if there is enugh intrest we will get something sorted.hope you can jone us
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Posted: 07/10/2009 20:31:13
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derrickman wrote:

I've never looked at the small print but I would rather suspect that it wasn't consistent with BCA insurance.



Doesn't matter, I haven't got any insurance so I don't suppose the BCA care what I do Smile
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Posted: 07/10/2009 20:40:32
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jagman wrote:

derrickman wrote:

I've never looked at the small print but I would rather suspect that it wasn't consistent with BCA insurance.



Doesn't matter, I haven't got any insurance so I don't suppose the BCA care what I do Smile
Thats the spirit good man.if we all stressed about things like that then we wouldnt risk mine exploreing at all
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Posted: 07/10/2009 20:46:56
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Will there be a cake to put the candles in?

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Posted: 07/10/2009 20:56:04
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Doug if cake would make you happy im shore i could sort something out for you.would you like chocolate sprinkles IP: 88.104.78.142
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Posted: 07/10/2009 21:09:30
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Simon has a one candlepower helmet somewhere...

Just thinking, it might be an interesting experiment to go into somewhere with modern lights and then come out be candlelight - it would suddenly take away a massive safety net?

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Posted: 07/10/2009 21:17:39
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I have seen a film ("Brave Old World" taken in 1975 or 76) showing a old quarryman in the Oakeley walking along a passageway with the candle cradled in his hand (ouch!). IP: 92.28.151.82
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Posted: 07/10/2009 21:32:14
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Vanoord wrote:

Simon has a one candlepower helmet somewhere...

Just thinking, it might be an interesting experiment to go into somewhere with modern lights and then come out be candlelight - it would suddenly take away a massive safety net?
good idea im shore there will be somewhere we can go that is a safe trip without to menny big holes in the floor
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Posted: 07/10/2009 21:53:40
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Sounds a great idea to me. We had a brief stint just with candles in a slate mine a while back and it was very atmospheric. How about candles and/or miners lamps? Or is it just candles.

Let's sort a date and venue out Thumbs Up

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Posted: 07/10/2009 23:04:21
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It's an excellent idea. I did this once with my two sons. We went into a mine with caplamps and when it was time to leave, we held a candle each and experienced how different it was trying to find your way around. You find it is much more difficult because you can only see a short distance, so familiar features you use to navigate by subconsciously cannot be seen until you are quite close to them. Do it - it will make the most familiar mine very different. I can't understand the insurance thing. BCA insurance doesn't dictate what kind of illumination we must use!


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Posted: 07/10/2009 23:16:56
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JohnnearCfon wrote:

walking along a passageway with the candle cradled in his hand (ouch!).


AYE!! lost count of the number of times I have done this with t'owd man going up the number 9 addit in Croseor when I was a nipper!!!

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Posted: 07/10/2009 23:17:44
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I must admit I find this thread slightley bizarre. Half the time the candles were knackered because of the bad air in th mines. I assume you are not going to try and replicate that. It's surely not about what you can see it's about health and the exploitation of the miners.

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Posted: 07/10/2009 23:27:54
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Theres a great life principle in this idea, its important to know what hardships our predecessors suffered.

I just took the idea a stage further and told the missus she got to do the washing tomorrow down in garden leat using a couple of rocks so she can apreciate how lucky she is I bought her a washing machine......

Looks like i'm on the sofa tonight....

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Posted: 07/10/2009 23:34:41
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DougCornwall wrote:

Theres a great life principle in this idea, its important to know what hardships our predecessors suffered.

I just took the idea a stage further and told the missus she got to do the washing tomorrow down in garden leat using a couple of rocks so she can apreciate how lucky she is I bought her a washing machine......

Looks like i'm on the sofa tonight....


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Posted: 08/10/2009 08:51:49
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Did a trip in Cwmorthin a while back with oil lamps, courtesy of MM. Took a while to get used to the light but once we did it was really atmospheric.
Went down to G caban and brewed tea and had lunch by oil lamp...
Good day, worth doing, just for the experience...


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Posted: 08/10/2009 09:09:19
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Peter Burgess wrote:

It's an excellent idea. I did this once with my two sons. We went into a mine with caplamps and when it was time to leave, we held a candle each and experienced how different it was trying to find your way around. You find it is much more difficult because you can only see a short distance, so familiar features you use to navigate by subconsciously cannot be seen until you are quite close to them. Do it - it will make the most familiar mine very different. I can't understand the insurance thing. BCA insurance doesn't dictate what kind of illumination we must use!


I've never read the small print, so I stand to be corrected by someone who has, but the issue I had in mind is related to a problem with vintage motorcycle racing, which I'm involved with.

There is a catch-all insurance clause relating to 'best practice' which vintage machines don't comply with, in certain technical respects; or, you might say, they comply with things which are no longer done. We have to do quite a lot of detailed negotiation to allow some machines to race.

I don't imagine candles would qualify for this, if applicable? I have done a trip with the scouts, when my son was a member, in which we turned caplamps off and lit candles, but we did it in a single chamber and didn't attempt to move about.

it was actually quite an interesting experience.

I'd suggest that you also include carbide lamps, they are quite different from electric lamps and very much part of the 'heritage' side.
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