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Welsh Highland Railway
Posted: 12/03/2009 19:36:13
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one for the ffestinog people
Posted: 12/03/2009 19:43:56
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Good lord, that sounds rough!

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one for the ffestinog people
Posted: 12/03/2009 20:13:02
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Sounds like there's air getting into the injectors, the loco's motor is "hunting".

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one for the ffestinog people
Posted: 12/03/2009 21:21:01
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By the sound of that diesel engine I would say it has a blockage somewhere in the fuel supply, faulty fuel lift pump, lose coupling on the injector pump or a faulty govener.
Nice to see it all the same, will have to take a ride on the railway this year.

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one for the ffestiniog people
Posted: 13/03/2009 09:04:23
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For more information, photos and videos of yesterday's activities have a look at the "Latest News" page of the Welsh Highland Railway Project site, [web link] IP: 194.83.12.7
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Posted: 13/03/2009 10:38:03
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Ta Skimble Smile

"electrical fault in its throttle control" apparently...

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Posted: 13/03/2009 21:12:20
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Vanoord wrote:

Ta Skimble Smile

"electrical fault in its throttle control" apparently...

More specifically, in the electronics of the "throttle proportionate control"; I simplified it on the webpage as I had no idea what that meant...! Confused But reportedly it was being fixed earlier today.
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Posted: 13/03/2009 21:55:42
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Not sure if its exactly the same but if the loco has electronic injection / firing as against a normal governer there is an electronic Notch in the locos traction control that equates to the drivers notch position on the controller in the cab.... just like on my 3800hp machines....sometimes they get scrambled and hunt up and down, we get exactly the same problems... just a bit bigger!!! Thumbs Up

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Posted: 14/03/2009 09:38:25
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As a matter of interest which engine does this loco have, and what fuel injection type? Has anyone got any photos of the engine itself?


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Posted: 14/03/2009 17:08:15
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Must admit i'd like to see the specs because if it's electronic fuel control it must be pretty up to date....

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Posted: 14/03/2009 21:29:30
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FR Wiki says:-

"An 0-6-0DH, this locomotive was built at Boston Lodge using parts bought from Baguley-Drewry following that company's liquidation, although much was built new. Experience with Harlech Castle had suggested that a similar locomotive would have potential as a passenger locomotive and the "in house" designed bodywork reflect the links between the two locos. Entering service in 1995, the loco sees regular service in the passenger fleet, and is fitted with advanced computer controls which enables the use of the Push Pull system. This allows the engine to remain at the top end of the train on "down" services, being driven from a cab in observation Carriage 111."

Doesn't mention the engine type though. I think that article is incorrect. There were 3 identical locos constructed (or partly constructed) by Baguley-Drewry. One was complete, and is on the Bredgar line, one is Criccieth Castle, and the third is on VoR. I believe that the Bredgar line bought all three from Baguley, kept the one that had been completed, and sold the other two (partially built) ones on.



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Posted: 15/03/2009 01:33:59
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I think it is a caterpilr engine ( according to a friend )

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Posted: 23/03/2009 10:16:38
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Ben Fisher wrote:

More specifically, in the electronics of the "throttle proportionate control"; I simplified it on the webpage as I had no idea what that meant...! Confused But reportedly it was being fixed earlier today.


The only 'proportionate' control I've come across has been something which takes a mechanical input (ie a lever) and coverts it to electricity for transmission to the 'business end' before converting it back to a mechanical output (to control the flow of hydraulic fluid).

In this instance, I'd suspect that we're talking a very basic "fly by wire" system in that the throttle lever electronically controls a servo which operates a (probably) mechanical fuel pump?

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Posted: 24/03/2009 16:47:10
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I thought there would not be any electronic fuel fuel control system on that loco. I think it would be much better if the put a cable or rod throttle control on it as it is not far from the cab to the engine and of course much more reliable.
There was something going on this Monday morning in Porthmadog about 7.20 am as there was quite a crowd by the bridge and many people with cameras ready.

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Posted: 24/03/2009 19:20:15
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hymac580c wrote:

I thought there would not be any electronic fuel fuel control system on that loco. I think it would be much better if the put a cable or rod throttle control on it as it is not far from the cab to the engine and of course much more reliable.
There was something going on this Monday morning in Porthmadog about 7.20 am as there was quite a crowd by the bridge and many people with cameras ready.


Thre must be some kind of electronic speed control as it can be remotely controlled from a driving trailer coach.

The newly restored Garrett, no 87, crossed over the High Street yesterday morning hauling coach no 2090 destined for Dinas.

A video is here

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Posted: 24/03/2009 19:29:36
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Wow TDM fitted Narrow gauge.... there's a thought!!!


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Posted: 24/03/2009 19:49:18
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Hmm, TDM, I wonder if that's what they mean by is fitted with advanced computer controls which enables the use of the Push Pull system? Somehow I have visions of a ZX81 or Spectrum hidden away.




(TDM = Time division multiplex in case anyone is interested).

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Posted: 24/03/2009 21:09:52
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Now I know where all the TDM units off my locos vanished to..... love the Speccy Idea.... Laugh



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Posted: 09/04/2009 15:18:12
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Open to the public now according to the Beeb.

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More than 70 years after the last passenger train ran to Beddgelert in Gwynedd, steam engines are once again chugging along the line.
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Posted: 09/04/2009 16:18:55
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Open to the public now according to the Beeb.

Open as far as Beddgelert, but not all the way to Port quite yet.
The trip is highly recommended but, having been one of the crew on the [busy] first public train from Caernarfon yesterday, I would say that, wouldn't I Smile
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