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Posted: 27/06/2007 18:01:23
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Can anyone reccomend a good emergency light ? Ideally it would meet the following criteria :

1/ Totally waterproof IP67
2/ LED light source
3/ Standard rather than exotic batteries
4/ Small enough to put in pocket
5/ Reasonably robust

I am not looking for anything shoddy or cheap, but preferably a good quality solid product. I will be using it only as a "get out of jail" light source should all else fail.

Any suggestions ? Smile


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Posted: 27/06/2007 18:17:07
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Petzl E+Lite seems the obvious answer, but it runs on two CR2032 cells, so I guess that's out. Very lightweight and the flashing mode is quite a handy feature. Well worth carrying imho.

I've taken to carrying a Silva L2 (the 1W version) as a back-up, but it's not waterproof. It's also hand as a pocket-sized headlamp for exploring places you want to saunder up to, without attracting attention. I'll concur that mostly any 1W LED (Luxeon) lamp would do the same job though.



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Posted: 27/06/2007 18:43:47
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Thanks Vanoord..
As this is going to be a light that is used only in an emergency situation, something small & unobtrusive is going to be desirable, therefore I am thinking along the lines of hand held rather than head / hat mounted.

Also as I am frequently in deep water .. ( Er... literally, I should add) it really would need to be totally waterproof.



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Posted: 27/06/2007 22:31:25
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The Fenix P3D might be a good solution, see here:



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Or Vanoord sells a very nice 3W Gerber torch, got my dad one for father's day and it's a nice piece of kit - small but solid feeling.

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Posted: 28/06/2007 07:54:44
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That looks certainly like what I am looking for. Is it waterproof ?

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Posted: 28/06/2007 08:32:03
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The Fenix is a great bit of kit, lots of light output and all in a teeny-weeny unit. But! those batteries are not cheap: fine as a back-up I reckon, but I wouldn't want to feed it regularly*!

* unless, of course, you can get rechargeable ones?

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Posted: 28/06/2007 09:50:58
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Actually, as I only ever anticipate using it in an emergency situation, the battery cost would not be an issue. It looks like a nice piece of kit .....

... But is it waterproof ?

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Posted: 28/06/2007 09:58:39
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We need JohnnyM to answer that one - he's got one. I'll give him a nudge to reply...

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Posted: 28/06/2007 11:31:47
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Hi All,

I don't think the P3DE is intended to be absolutely waterproof (not to IP68: IP67 is 1 metre depth for 30 minutes). Fenix describe it as waterproof, Flashlight Review (http://www.flashlightreviews.com/reviews/fenix_p3dce.htm) says "dunkable", as the guy who writes it is pretty cautious. I haven't tried submerging mine yet.

A couple of points, though: first, you can get rechargeables for this, and they're fine. Second, there are O-rings to waterproof the main body threads (it comes in three pieces - the head, the body & the tail). The only other possible points of ingress for water are past the lens (should be possible to seal it with silicone sealant) and possibly the tailswitch, ditto. I shall try this on my P3DE and report back.

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Posted: 28/06/2007 11:49:07
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This one is looking even better. Are they available in the UK ?

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Posted: 28/06/2007 12:06:14
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Yes. Got mine from Glowgadgets: http://www.glowgadgets.co.uk/

You also have a choice of similar Fenix lights that take either a single CR123 battery, or a single AA, or a double AA. I chose the P3DE because: the two CR123s give it a longer life in an emergency, the Li-ion rechargeables stay charged on the shelf, are much smaller & lighter than AAs, and it has a better range of brightness settings. It's worth buying a pair of the rechargeables with a dedicated charger - there are lots of cheapo deals if you do this.

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Posted: 28/06/2007 13:04:15
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Thanks for the advice & info guys, I have ordered one of these Big Grin

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Posted: 30/06/2007 11:58:31
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Not as high tech or waterproof (although you may be able to get a waterproof one) but a windup torch is always good in case all light and batteries fail, and handy for general use as its never going to run out IP: 84.65.213.199
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Posted: 02/07/2007 10:38:22
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Hi Nimrod,

I know you've already ordered one, but I'm sure you'll be happy to know that I tried submerging mine (in water, drank all the whisky...) as promised. After three hours, all the internals were bone dry and it was still going like a train.

Cheers,

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Posted: 02/07/2007 11:27:34
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Ah, thats reassuring Smile
Thanks Johnnym.

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Posted: 06/07/2007 12:49:08
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My new light has arrived. looks a very nice, quality piece of kit. It came with batteries too (unexpected) and some other freeby toys (a nice surprise) Smile

Recommended > www.glowgadgets.co.uk

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