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Author Glyn Rhonwy 'Earth Centre'
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Posted: 07/06/2020 12:01:34
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"A multi-million pound visitor centre is proposed at the former Glyn Rhonwy slate mine next to Llyn Padarn in Llanberis."

See https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdonia-set-eden-project-world-18376524 and https://theearthproject.world/north-wales-hub/

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Posted: 07/06/2020 13:47:29
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Oh dear, sounds dreadful. Sad

There was a bit about it in the Daily Post the other day; Gwynedd Council are mad keen for it as the whole place is a liability for them. I imagine some grant money will flow in from somewhere and there will be a few nice cars in the carpark for a while....Sad

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Posted: 07/06/2020 14:01:34
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Ah! It has used the word "sustainable", so that is ok then! IP: 86.160.64.52
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Posted: 07/06/2020 14:37:50
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Has anybody told the yoghurt weavers what the RAF actually did in the quarries? Shocked IP: 195.213.27.169
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Posted: 07/06/2020 15:05:06
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Blimey, looks like they've got some 8year old with photoshop to knock up their 'designs'.

Does this mean that Quarry Battery has gone t*ts up?
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Posted: 07/06/2020 15:45:46
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Likely outcome - grand money will pour into feasibility studies, environmental impact assessments etc, plus a load of other hangers on, then, nothing. "Nice new cars" of course, relates to the above.

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Posted: 07/06/2020 16:19:05
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Grumpy old men aside, if money is going to be poured into the project (even grant money), that means spending locally. Creating jobs?, improving the area?, and hey, it might even be a successful venture.

What is not to like?

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Posted: 07/06/2020 18:54:25
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There would be no internet without grumpy gits. If only it were otherwise! Moan moan moan......
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Posted: 07/06/2020 23:04:27
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Ultimately, can anyone explain what the end purpose will be? I can't for the life of me work out what it actually will be.

Its all well and good creating a few jobs, but then again the guy who ran the Klondyke mine in the Gwydir created a few jobs, didn't last long though did it? Laugh

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Posted: 08/06/2020 08:45:04
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Blober wrote:

Ultimately, can anyone explain what the end purpose will be? I can't for the life of me work out what it actually will be.

Its all well and good creating a few jobs, but then again the guy who ran the Klondyke mine in the Gwydir created a few jobs, didn't last long though did it? Laugh


It's a bit tricky but wriggling my way behind all the obfuscation and buzz words on their website it does seem like there is some decent substance behind it.

Best of luck to them, the world seems to be going to hell in a handcart as far as I can see.

We've now got a sustainability manager at work, had an introductory meeting with her the other week, pointed out that we are occupying, heating and cooling 20k sq ft half of which is unused most of the year. Suggested moving to a smaller building or improving the controls so we could isolate unused sections easier, pointed out the age and inefficiency of most of our plant, suggested investing in liquid nitrogen generation on site to save delivery costs and wastage and produced outline calculations to show payback within two years.

A bit of coughing and staring into the middle distance followed, before moving on with much more enthusiasm to whether people have the right bins in the canteen to recycle their sandwich wrappers, and whether we might stop giving out free pens at conferences.

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Posted: 08/06/2020 09:24:45
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Blober wrote:

Ultimately, can anyone explain what the end purpose will be? I can't for the life of me work out what it actually will be.

Its all well and good creating a few jobs, but then again the guy who ran the Klondyke mine in the Gwydir created a few jobs, didn't last long though did it? Laugh


Somewhere for tourists to visit on one of the rare rainy days in Llanberis!, and spend their money... Doesn't really matter what it is as long as it takes visitors.

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Posted: 08/06/2020 10:03:28
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ChrisJC wrote:

Grumpy old men aside, if money is going to be poured into the project (even grant money), that means spending locally. Creating jobs?, improving the area?, and hey, it might even be a successful venture.

What is not to like?

Chris.


I lived opposite Glyn Rhonwy for 25 years. In that time it has been on the verge of being anything from a dry ski slope to a bike track with chairlift; to a pier onto Llanberis lake and gondolas; an indoor ski centre; craft workshops; a cluster of businesses involved in the outdoor leisure sector, along with high quality caravan/camping park; and a pumped storage scheme.

I may be on the verge of being a grumpy old man; but I don't know of a single local who has got a job out of all this. Just a lot of money (public and private) spent on red herrings.

North Wales Tourism and the local councils have said - post C-19 - that they want to re-imagine tourism in North Wales; look to attract higher spending tourists rather than gauge success purely in terms of visitor numbers.

This sort of development may be in line with that thinking?

I'd suggest they could start by stopping all the bloody triathlons; in a normal summer barely a few days go by between road closures as yet another band of high-achieving athletes pound by.

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Posted: 08/06/2020 11:05:07
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SimonRL wrote:



North Wales Tourism and the local councils have said - post C-19 - that they want to re-imagine tourism in North Wales; look to attract higher spending tourists rather than gauge success purely in terms of visitor numbers.



I wonder if this is wise. Living in Cambridgeshire as I do I get the feeling that (pre-Covid) Wales was fast becoming a day trip destination rather than a place for the family holiday. Many people have heard of or been to the big ziplines, the underground trampolines or to climb Snowdon but when you talk to them they go for that specific purpose often as a long day and may only stop at the motorway services on the journey. No doubt their trip is costly but beyond the venue they visit how much is spent with local businesses?
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Posted: 08/06/2020 12:19:25
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That is an impressive list of Professors and PhDs !
I would guess that the project will employ far less people than is on the list of ambassadors and advisors, technicals, directors, advisors etc etc. Big GrinBig Grin

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Posted: 08/06/2020 13:48:07
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SimonRL wrote:


I may be on the verge of being a grumpy old man; but I don't know of a single local who has got a job out of all this. Just a lot of money (public and private) spent on red herrings.


I'm sure that's right - but of course none of those schemes have come to fruition!

I hope something happens at some point, 'cos it's certainly no use nor ornament at the moment!

Of course I'm cynical that it ever will, the obstacles are just too high. You'd be crazy to try to set up a business these days.

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Posted: 08/06/2020 16:12:40
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ChrisJC wrote:



Of course I'm cynical that it ever will, the obstacles are just too high. You'd be crazy to try to set up a business these days.

Chris.




Very thought fills me with horror!
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Posted: 09/06/2020 12:01:55
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I've read that the collapse in the covered munitions section was thought to be due to cracks seen in the concrete and the weight of the 40ft protective layer of broken slate above. Thereafter the remainder of the covered section was abandoned and munitions only stored in the now open air part.

I'm guessing that somehow that dangerous covered area is now safe? Or they intend to reinforce it somehow?
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Posted: 09/06/2020 14:02:12
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Cracks? What cracks?

Dangerous? What is dangerous?

Has THAT crack got wider?

What is that deep rumbling noise?

Oh!! **** I think we had better move!
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Posted: 09/06/2020 15:59:34
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50shadesofgreen wrote:

I've read that the collapse in the covered munitions section was thought to be due to cracks seen in the concrete and the weight of the 40ft protective layer of broken slate above. Thereafter the remainder of the covered section was abandoned and munitions only stored in the now open air part.

I'm guessing that somehow that dangerous covered area is now safe? Or they intend to reinforce it somehow?


The original covering was much thicker than it is now. After it collapsed, they took most of it off.

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Posted: 09/06/2020 18:11:34
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Now you say it, the spoil on top does not look 40ft deep and perhaps the trees on top there look younger than those on the banks? IP: 82.132.236.169
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