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Paul Marvin

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Posted: 30/04/2017 12:20:45
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These signs have appeared this week chaps dotted all over the site




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Long Rake
Posted: 30/04/2017 14:36:33
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Is this actually Long Rake Mine (Bradwell) or is it Long Rake Spar Mine (Youlgreave)? IP: 86.178.232.202
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Posted: 30/04/2017 17:10:32
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Youlgreave I think there is 5 of them and they wasn't there 10 days ago Crying IP: 2.102.27.132
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Posted: 30/04/2017 21:15:14
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Maybe you guys in Derbyshire may have to challenge it!
This mine has been closed for years, and mine explorers have been in and out, presumably without hinderence for nearly as long, making it a preemptive right.
As for reworking, cannot see it myself, since it was close to the water table, and I would assume that, this was a major reason for the closure of both these mines.
Maybe some one is after the scrap, and does not want any interference, from us.
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Posted: 30/04/2017 21:33:30
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Or maybe we could respect Trevor Broadhurst's wishes and keep out? The fact that there have been occasional visits by explorers since the mine ceased working does not in any way shape or form create a "right" to go onto private land and enter the workings.

LR may not have had any mineral taken out for a long time but it's never been formally abandoned AFAIK, and the extractors from the surface plant blow the dust down the shaft. Of course, when explorers went in and didn't shout all over the internet about it, perhaps Long Rake Spar were content to turn a blind eye....

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Posted: 30/04/2017 21:33:56
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It is still worked on the surface up the road and when the crushers are running they pump the exhaust fumes down there this is why us locals only ever use it discreetly on Sundays or bank holidays.

A Friend of mine does contract work for the company a told me about the exhaust fumes

We always took a gas detector down with us but most of the smell is creosote as there is a lot of timber down there
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Posted: 01/05/2017 22:10:48
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I wonder what has happened to bring about these recent new signs then. The stone company certainly knew that persons were exploring the mine on a regular basis. In fact I think they made contact with Edus1 to ask his permission to use some of his photos in their own marketing material. Ed had also been in contact with the management re a possible trip down the mine with some of the current personnel, just so they could see for themselves just what lay under their works.




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IP: 82.7.248.110 Edited: 01/05/2017 22:11:31 by Brakeman
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Posted: 01/05/2017 22:35:45
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They are rightly covering their own arses.
If some idiot gets themselves asphixiated, they don't want to be held liable. I'm suprised that they haven't sealed the entrances.

I suspect that AR may be right about people broadcasting their visits on the internet.
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Posted: 02/05/2017 09:39:59
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As they very occasionally need to send people down there, the Inspectorate require a second point of access to the workings hence why the east opencut didn't get filled in like the old ladderway section.

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Posted: 02/05/2017 10:06:35
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Signs have been there for at least a month we went down one friday night before the signs and once we got to the bottom of the ladders 3 out of 6 of us started to feel light headed and then the head ache arrived... I do believe that it must be in use at the surface works and the signs are to stop the potential risk of CO2 and CO poisoning from the fumes generated at the surface?

Definitely do not recommend going down there at the moment...

Was one of my favorites to explore, also there was a huge land slide near the rails which happened to start slipping as i was halfway back up the second ladder... No thanks i'll let that place be a memory for me Surrender

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Posted: 02/05/2017 11:24:35
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I would just stay away.

The fumes are correct and the place is ruined by the dust being pumped down there anyway.

Its a shame but that's how it is.

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Posted: 02/05/2017 13:59:32
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AR wrote:

Or maybe we could respect Trevor Broadhurst's wishes and keep out? The fact that there have been occasional visits by explorers since the mine ceased working does not in any way shape or form create a "right" to go onto private land and enter the workings.


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Without stealth - sneaking in at night does not create a right of access.

And yes, when the owner doesn't want people in their mine, posting all the details on the internet isn't a bright idea and eventually knackers access. But it was ever thus... Bored

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Posted: 03/05/2017 17:05:54
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Some people I know did a night trip, assuming it would be fine - it wasn't, as the fans started pumping dust down while they were in there, and they could barely see to get out - crawling along on the floor, basically. Lord knows how much silica dust they will have breathed in, never mind gases. IP: 81.174.241.13
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Posted: 03/05/2017 18:00:58
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Posted: 03/05/2017 18:52:49
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pwhole wrote:

Lord knows how much silica dust they will have breathed in, never mind gases.


What are they processing / milling?
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Posted: 03/05/2017 23:05:53
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Stone of varying types,, really the dust is just from cutting and dressing as far as I can tell.

They have recently been granted planning permission for a new silo building and alterations to existing buildings, so it sound as though they are expanding somewhat.

I guess they consider the mine as a permanent receptive for the slurry/tailings etc rather like has happened with Arbor Low mine next door.


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Posted: 04/05/2017 19:50:28
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No doubt there will always be a market for rough cast.
Except in the east Long Rake has been well known for calcite production.
Even in the Highlands, some of the clippings from marble quarries end up being used in this way.
Must be a pretty ineffecint engine, if it has to be vented underground.
The slurry is a different issue, the parks authority will be on their backs if tailings are not properly looked after.
Too many tailings dams have broken across the world, and so,you if can avoid having one then you save a lot of problems.
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Posted: 04/05/2017 21:37:21
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Oh, they've got a very good slurry dam - it's called the 475 level....

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Posted: 04/05/2017 21:43:37
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Venting underground so they don't have to do emissions testing and buy lots of expensive dust extraction equipment.

Given that they dry and tumble all sorts of aggregates no telling what the dust would be at any given time.

http://www.derbyshiredales.gov.uk/environment-and-waste/pollution/env-permitting/public-registers/other-mineral-activities/212-long-rake-spar-co-ltd

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Posted: 04/05/2017 21:59:45
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Despite the dust in the mine, it's good to see a mineral business still operating from it's original site after so many years.

It will be a very long time till the dust/tailings fill the voids under their works for sure.

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