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Author Horse Crag (Tilberthwaite Deep) Level
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Horse Crag (Tilberthwaite Deep) Level
Posted: 12/04/2008 15:15:33
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Eric Holland's book says this level goes for over 3,240 feet to reach the veins of Tilberthwaite Mine. It is blocked by clay material at around 600 feet. He writes "enthusiastic digging might find a way through" - has anyone considered a dig or squeezed through the clay fall? IP: 91.125.19.134
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Horse Crag (Tilberthwaite Deep) Level
Posted: 12/04/2008 16:44:35
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i squeezed through into the cavity formed by the fall it was an awfull slippy crawl but the cavity is quite big,i think it would take quite a lot of enthusiastic. digging plus the passage is likley to be flooded to the roof behind it you would have to be carefull not to wash the man who lives in the hut away when you break through Big Grin

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Horse Crag (Tilberthwaite Deep) Level
Posted: 12/04/2008 18:08:55
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Yep, been to the fall - and there is a normally a lot a water seeping through the fallen material. The slate mine only closed a few years ago, is that the owner who lives in the little cabin?


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Posted: 12/04/2008 18:15:00
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CATMHS attempted the dig many years ago with no success. IP: 84.92.35.248
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Posted: 12/04/2008 18:41:09
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I have been (almost) to the other side of the collapse on the Horse Crag and I can tell you that the water is backed up for over 1000 feet.

To get down to the back of the Horse Level in the 90's was ****** dangerous.

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Posted: 12/04/2008 19:44:13
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A lot of water!
You'd have to have some kind of remote control shovel to dig a way through
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Isn't it also possible to get to that level via abseiling from one of the Benson's Vein levels higher up?


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Posted: 12/04/2008 20:02:14
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LAP wrote:



Isn't it also possible to get to that level via abseiling from one of the Benson's Vein levels higher up?


It is... but as Monty says, a very dodgy trip (not that I have ever done it, I hasten to add)

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Posted: 12/04/2008 22:58:33
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Its really crap, and quite tricky. There was a number of stages but they were all a bit 'movable'. I suspect some have actually collapsed. At the bottom was a very interesting ore bogie, larger than the usual ones in the area and a lot of water.

The original plans showed a slate closehead a little way from the bottom of the shaft and we entered it by swimming - just beyond that the Horse Level sumped up, as I say at least 1000 feet from where the blockage is.

I'm up for another trip down there if anyone's interested?

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Posted: 12/04/2008 23:03:24
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Monty Stubble wrote:



I'm up for another trip down there if anyone's interested?



You Betcha !

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Posted: 12/04/2008 23:34:35
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Me too! IP: 84.92.35.248
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Posted: 12/04/2008 23:47:10
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me 2, or at least the bits without SRT (I'll get round to it) if everyone's ok with that


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Posted: 13/04/2008 09:55:32
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Count me in too - I'm only round the corner - who has enough rope though?! IP: 217.33.151.146
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Posted: 13/04/2008 17:15:51
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squirrel wrote:

Count me in too - I'm only round the corner - who has enough rope though?!


I have enough rope.

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Posted: 25/04/2008 19:01:56
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Ok Chums, I had a look in here this afternoon. The route is open to the shaft top, but I had to do a little clearance work. The bad news is that the anchors are, as I suspected wholly unusable. So It will need to be re-bolted....

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Horse Crag (Tilberthwaite Deep) Level
Posted: 25/04/2008 21:09:38
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Just uploaded a CAT survey, look under "Tilberthwaite Mine", always willing to help. Getting late, Romeo Foxtrot over and out.

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Posted: 26/04/2008 14:52:30
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Colonel Mustard wrote:

Ok Chums, I had a look in here this afternoon. The route is open to the shaft top, but I had to do a little clearance work. The bad news is that the anchors are, as I suspected wholly unusable. So It will need to be re-bolted....


Is there a bit up to your nipples in water?
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Posted: 26/04/2008 16:26:11
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Monty Stubble wrote:


Is there a bit up to your nipples in water?


Aye... but it did not make much difference - I was soaked with the rain by the time I got to the portal ! And what a place to get to with tackle.... good grief.

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Posted: 30/04/2008 08:51:59
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Went last night to start re-bolting. Did the first drop down along side the pipe. From the bottom of the rope to the top of the big shaft is really bad though. Marked as 'collapsed floor' on Monty Stubble's section [web link]
'CollapsING might be the best current description. Very horrible indeed. It requires a safety line to be installed along this section to the shaft top and that is the next job. Even when that is done, I think it will be still a f*****g awful place ....

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Posted: 30/04/2008 09:45:32
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It was in the 80's when that section was drawn. Bucket hole refers to a large bucket which had to be removed so that we could get through. Sadly it disentegrated when we moved it. Rather like the rest of the place.

Busy this weekend but might possibly manage the next if you're up for it.
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Posted: 30/04/2008 09:59:36
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Monty Stubble wrote:

It was in the 80's when that section was drawn. Bucket hole refers to a large bucket which had to be removed so that we could get through. Sadly it disentegrated when we moved it. Rather like the rest of the place.

Busy this weekend but might possibly manage the next if you're up for it.


Yep, OK things are on hold until next weekend then (sat or sun ?) . I've got plenty of gear and rope for a horizontal line to the shaft top and will bring drill. As for the shaft itself, I have got 2*50mtr coils on site at the moment, will that be sufficient or do you think it will need more ?

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