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Wich Camera to Buy? Underground and very UMIDITY conditions
Posted: 07/11/2016 17:42:17
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Hello guys,

I am from brazil and i have to buy a camera tht supports moisture, umidity, to underground mines.
Do you have any suggestion?
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Posted: 07/11/2016 22:11:02
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It has been a long time since I was in the camera market, but for those sorts of conditions maybe a go-pro might be the answer? IP: 87.224.72.55
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Posted: 07/11/2016 22:21:52
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i thought on that. But i still think there is something more professional, more specific.
Thanks!
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Posted: 07/11/2016 22:22:48
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I believe that there are some reasonably priced waterproof cameras on the market, but for underground use you will need a fairly wide angle lens, and an open shutter option for light painting.

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Posted: 08/11/2016 00:06:44
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Something like this would probably cope with most things a mine could throw at it:

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/en/digital-compact/description/RICOH-WG-30.html

I use a Pentax digital SLR underground constantly, and that's coped fine under most conditions, so I'm sure this sort of camera would be more than suitable if you're worried about excessive humidity.

Actually, having read through the spec, it seems a quarter of a second is the longest exposure, which won't help much underground with lights - unless they're Roy's!
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Posted: 08/11/2016 00:53:19
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A friend showed me this:
http://www.nikon.com.br/nikon-products/product/compact-digital-cameras/coolpix-aw130.html

But i don´t think the 30 meters will give any guarantee against humidity.
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Posted: 08/11/2016 04:52:53
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Low budget Panasonic LUMIX DMC-FT30, otherwise Panasonic LUMIX DMC-FT5 or Olympus TG4.

FT5 offers best image quality of the three, wifi-control, 'manual' control and long exposure (15" and 30").
TG4 offers wifi-control, 'manual' control, raw in some modes and Live-Composite. The last mode is nice for light painting, as you can follow the results on the screen and add more light where needed.
FT30 is just a basic camera which will do the job, but some people might not be happy with the image quality which is still better than Ricoh/Pentax WG-series in most cases.
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Posted: 08/11/2016 17:16:00
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I have an AW130 and it was a total waste of money. Utter gash. IP: 81.140.40.222
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Posted: 09/11/2016 17:53:55
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The best thing out there at the mo for what we do WITHOUT the bulk is definatley the Olympus TG4 the live composite mode is amazing ( up to 3 hours exposure )and it is waterproof to 50 feet, i use this now both above and below the water and it really is a triumph Approx £300 Olympus have nailed it and the lens is pretty wide as well, it punches WAY above its size Thumbs Up IP: 2.103.86.59 Edited: 09/11/2016 18:20:33 by Paul Marvin
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Posted: 10/11/2016 12:10:15
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There are a lot of bridge cameras and compact cameras out there that claim to be or are rated as waterproof, but unfortunately unless you want to spend a $1500 then most of them are unsuitable for underground use due to limitations on ISO settings and long exposure times.

You would probably be better buying a Canon or Nikon DSLR and invest in a silicon rubber waterproof bag for it that are purposely designed to take cameras and allow use whilst in the bags.

Peli Cases also sell some very good silica gel boxes for preventing moisture, a couple of these inside the bag will help with the humidity problems, and when they become inefficient they can be placed in an oven dried out and reactivated.

Also condensation problems within the camera are not normally caused by Humidity but rather the temperature difference of your equipment and the temperature of the environment. If you take a warm camera into a cold cave it will condensate moisture onto it, it's the same if you take cold equipment into a warm space it will fog up, the easiest option is to acclimatise the equipment first to the same temperature of the location you are going to.



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Posted: 10/11/2016 12:21:07
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I regularly take my TG4 on shallow dives ( up to 30 feet ) without a housing and it performs fine underwater as long as its is prepped properly and not abused. Both these photos were taken last week on a shallow dive in Holme Bank without the housing, testing a few settings. The file size is very small so may look a bit soft , the larger files are sharp, lit by greenforce video lights



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I also dive deeper but the of course then it goes in its housing

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Posted: 05/01/2018 16:21:55
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I seem to be unexpectedly in the market for a new camera since taking mine out and finding the battery swelled up inside Sad

I've grown tired of lugging a Pelicase around with me and the constant struggle to keep stuff clean and dry. I'm thinking of a 'tough' type camera that can be tucked into an oversuit pocket but still get good results with long exposures etc.

I'm expecting to be in some humid environments this year as well......

Is the Olympus TG 4 still what people would recommend?
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Posted: 05/01/2018 16:41:08
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The 4 is good and there is a 5 now both have the live composite mode on them for excellent cave / mine photography the 2 and 3 dont so avoid these unless you just want topside stuff.

If you look at the August pic in the calendar that is done with my TG 4.

I love this camera as it does fit in your top pocket and the wide angle lens that you can get gives your chamber shots a whole new dimension Thumbs UpThumbs Up

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Posted: 05/01/2018 17:25:52
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I have a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FT2 and I'm happy with it, because it takes enormous amounts of abuse without complaining. I'm sure you can find cameras at the same price that take better pictures but I'm not sure if you find them that are more robust! IP: 147.143.13.7
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Posted: 05/01/2018 17:58:02
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Is that one waterproof Margot ?

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Very! IP: 147.143.13.7
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Posted: 05/01/2018 18:11:58
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What you need is a Kinnear half plate bellows camera; if it was good enough for J.C. Burrow........ IP: 86.136.233.174
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Posted: 05/01/2018 18:34:34
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Thumbs Up very mobile LOL

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Posted: 05/01/2018 21:50:31
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I have a Panasonic Lumix FT-5 and it's not bad.

I had a Nikon AW-130, which was terrible.

I have destroyed all of the others. The Nikon also got destroyed on a trip. Rugged isn't quite enough.

Note very well, you cannot get replacement cases inc lenses when you scratch yours.
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Posted: 05/01/2018 22:17:02
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Tamarmole wrote:

What you need is a Kinnear half plate bellows camera; if it was good enough for J.C. Burrow........


Can one still buy flash powder?
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