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D4RK

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Which camera to buy?
Posted: 28/02/2016 20:53:55
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Hey,

Thinking of buying a new camera, what cameras are you guys using or do you have any recommendations?

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Posted: 28/02/2016 21:56:40
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It depends on what you want from a camera, what your level of photography knowledge is, and what your budget is.

There are some decent camera's in al brackts:- point n shoot's, bridge cameras, CSC's and full DSLR's.

Give us a little more info, and people can advise you a little better.

No matter what though, go to a camera shop, and handle the camera's you shortlist. If you don't like the way a camera feels, you'll use it a lot less than one you like, but which my be a tiny bit worse.

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Posted: 28/02/2016 22:42:15
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Just bought the Canon EOS 750D. Excellent low light capabilities Wink IP: 86.139.144.1
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Posted: 28/02/2016 23:22:44
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I have used a Nikon D300 now for years and it is weather sealed which is really handy in mines and can use any Nikon lens because the focus motor is in the body of the camera, some cameras now have to use HSM lenses with the focus motor in the lens, not the camera body. you can get a second hand D300 now for £200 odd quid and when this one of mine eventually packs in I will be picking one up.

Basically, go for something with weather sealing because it will save you money in the long run, I have seen loads of cameras fail underground due to moisture ingress and only 2 weeks ago on a CatMhs trip in Cumbria I saw a poor ladies canon give up the ghost after getting damp.

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Posted: 29/02/2016 10:03:43
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You can get half-decent 10Mp+ pocket cameras on Fleabay for £10-£20 secondhand these days. Great if you're simply wanting snapshots and don't want to mix expensive gear and ochre.

If you want to take really good photos, forget it; ask Roy or Mike or Col to come with you and send you their pics when they get back Thumbs Up

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Posted: 29/02/2016 13:47:53
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Hey guys,

Really appreciate the information, this might be a bit of a rookie question but, how do you get good light underground, I have tried the standard flash and also using a flashlight, but it doesn't seem to give the effect of some of the photos I have seen on here..

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Posted: 29/02/2016 14:03:20
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I have a Nikon AW130 and I'd advise you not to have one. It is not very good. I used to get better results with "shyte".

My mate used to use a Canon D10. (Has a chunky bezel style thing) and is waterproof, ochreproof and jimmlfixit proof. It has a manual mode and is outstanding.

My Roy Fellows head torches give good results with no flash (which messes things up). My Scurion 1500 does not have enough welly to cut it properly. I'd either consider a bigger RF head torch, or something with a manual mode if you're going in black/big holes.
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Posted: 29/02/2016 14:20:51
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and the Roy Fellows camera bought of eBay many years ago is a big chunky FujiFilm S9600 still giving good results.

Avoid the earlier 9500 as it has weaknesses ironed out on the 9600, mainly command dial spindle breaking.

Its a bridge camera with a fixed manual zoom lens which does a focal equivalent of 28 mm wide angle, does up to 30 secs exposure and a 10 secs self timer. New cameras don't seem to give the information I need, probably down to the increasing politically correct dumbing down of everything.

Bet these are cheap now?

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Posted: 29/02/2016 18:04:50
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And to muddy the waters even further, I use a Sony NEX/E-Mount. It's tiny compared to a DSLR, has fully manual modes and you can mount a vast array of older manual lenses to it. I don't miss my chunky DSLR's one little bit.

As for lighting, you'll find people Lightpaint with torches, use flashes, flashbulbs (yes, really), and magnesium ribbon (be careful with this one, well ventilated chambers are a *must*).

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Posted: 29/02/2016 19:41:43
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Get one of these if you can still find one....

http://www.lenstip.com/125.4-article-Underwater_cameras_test_2010__Panasonic_Lumix_DMC-FT2.html

I bought one "new old stock" and it really does everything that you need of a camera and lots more besides. Looks pretty basic but if you read the spec you'll see that you get a lot for your money. Also at least one AditNow photo competition was won by a photo taken with one of these and also more than one photo featured on AN calendars..... Wink

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Posted: 29/02/2016 21:37:35
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Depends on how well you look after your camera and where you want to take it.

A basic rugged camera would be the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FT30. The camera has got a 15, 30 and 60 second exposure-setting. The FT25 has got slightly less internal memory, but the same specs as the FT30 otherwise.

Sample taken with FT25:


The Panasonic Lumix DMC-FT5 is even better with some basic manual settings and remote control. Long exposure is limited to 15 and 30 seconds.

Looking at the older FT. The FT4 has got better manual long exposure but no remote control and the FT3 has got no manual control.

Sample taken with FT3:


As for the lighting you could use several 'small' LED-lights like the a combiantion of EAGTAC DH10 and PH10 and hide them in the scene or alternatively paint with a suitable led-lamp. You won't need a big one either. Something like a
Nitecore P12 or Fenix PD35 can get you some good results with one of the FTs set on long exposure.

I have hidden up to 30 lights in above photos.

Sample for both methods:


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30 small lights hidden in the left photo and painting with a Nitecore P12 on the right.
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Posted: 01/03/2016 00:59:09
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Pentax models are always tough as boots and very reliable, and the weather-sealed models can easily cope with underground. I use a K20D, and it's been covered in mud, soaked and covered in dust with no issues. It once shut down due to extreme humidity in Carlswark, but it turned out to be a safety feature, as it switched itself back on again outside as though nothing had happened.

Again, many ancient K-mount film lenses can be used, as the anti-shake is built into the body, massively increasing flexibility, as you can get prime lenses, especially 28mms for next to nothing these days. Autofocus zoom lenses don't fare so well underground if you're doing anything committed or grotty.
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Posted: 01/03/2016 04:55:36
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Just be careful with some of the last Ricoh k-mounts. They're slightly modified with an extra pin. Some of them will fit but won't unlock again on your Pentax.

That's Ricoh well before they bought Pentax.
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Posted: 11/03/2016 17:54:49
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Depending on your budget, looking at the Canon EOS and Nikon D type of cameras IP: 172.87.28.175
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Posted: 11/03/2016 17:56:02
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do you want to use it for stuff like these http://thedigitalcamera.net/canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii-and-nikon-d5/ IP: 172.87.28.175
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Posted: 11/03/2016 19:32:57
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amos wrote:

do you want to use it for stuff like these http://thedigitalcamera.net/canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii-and-nikon-d5/

Niether of those are really suitable and the price is taking the pisss bigtime, also they wouldn't last 5 minutes underground!
I think maybe you have a vested interest! WinkBan Me
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Posted: 15/03/2016 21:46:41
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HI,

I use one of the Canon G Series cameras (G9). They have a hotshoe and are compatible with Canon and Yongnuo flash. You should be able to npick one up off EBay for around £100+.They are just as good as my DSLRs and produce brilliant images.
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Posted: 16/03/2016 10:01:19
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Whatever camera you choose, make sure it has a good lens as its the lens that makes a good picture. For low light check the lens has low f stop number - this means the lens can have a big aperture to let more light in. For example f/1 would be ideal, but epensive

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