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Author Box Quarry - New Year's Eve tourist trip 2015
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Box Quarry - New Year's Eve tourist trip 2015
Posted: 02/01/2016 17:20:31
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who: Dave G, Mark J, Steve R, Tich S, Rich S, John S, Simon P
where: Jacks entrance to Backdoor skirting the old entrances
when: 10:30 - 14:30 31st December 2015
role: Navigator (Mark J)


Box Quarry Entrance Tour

This year we only just managed to arrange the traditional tourist trip into Box Quarry between
Christmas and New Years Eve. But it was a good turn out in the end. The plan was to enter
Jack's and to leave from Backdoor skirting the western boundary of the quarry visiting
the old entrances to give the photographers in the group some challenging voids to capture.
Simon was keen to visit the Colonel Northey poster again that we had discovered on a previous trip. This prompted Mark to tells us of some further research about the poster
(soon to be published on - the Box people and places website).
They had discounted some of our wilder
theories about the nitrate king, but had uncovered a rich set of stories connected with the event
and people mentioned in the poster. They have yet to visit the poster but they know more about
the poster than anyone else - watch this space or rather watch theirs!

Rich was a Box virgin (but a grovel veteran) so we had to visit the Cathedral too.

Steve R issued a plea to be nice to Mark and DP as he wanted avoid one of Mark's punishment crawls. While we were outside I promised him I would keep quiet (fingers crossed), but sadly we did more crawling than I expected.

An ethical trip as we finished off in the pub (it was open all day) A good trip with precise navigation by Mark.

Anyhow here are some of my photos from the trip

Steve hurrying under some frightening hanging death




Walking past a side passage



Graffiti - 1887 C Oatley



Stone crane



Heading to Bridgegate



Getting near to Bridgegate




Tich about to pass the hanging death on the way to westgate




Graffiti on pillar



Timber ceiling props near westgate



admiring the cartway towards westgate



Water on the floor in the passageway near westgate



A slither of a rotten timber that is barely standing




Calculations




Someones Bath stone order




A football game




Captain Coombes - Salvation Army Corsham Corps




Graffiti - RAF inauguration rite




Graffiti - The shithouse - This is not the place to linger but to make haste




Unusual tally - Blocks with dimensions




Mark trying to decipher the block diagram




Finished stone




The cartway




Mark admires the re-found skull




The skull returns as a navigational feature



We found a solitary boot - and this prompted Mark to tell the story of how in North Wales
the slate miners would often leave a boot as they finished in a passageway as offering to the slate gods.

Looking at the boot sole



Sadly this fine story was somewhat undermined because
Steve found a whole lot of old boots. We found several shaped lady shoes,
football boots, a whole range of sizes. So we had simply found some rubbish pushed inside the entrance




Back to the cartway




Finished blocks



More of simon's research - some graffiti mentioned in the
scripta legenda near Rems crawl. It tells the story of the hanging of Charles Kite who murdered someone in a pub brawl in Bath. However Simon also googled for Charles kite and found an account of the incident on a website dedicated to victorian hangings

Charles kite murder in bath


February 25th - 25/2/1884
Charles Kite – Bath

Everyone was relieved when a quarrel between two young labourers at the Malt and Hops in Bath was resolved with fisticuffs in the yard outside the pub. The protagonists, Charles Kite and Albert Miles, both aged 21, went back into the bar after the fight.
"Let’s make friends and shake on it,” Kite said. He offered his left hand. Momentarily confused, Miles pulled away, and as he did so Kite lunged at him with a knife he had hidden in his right hand. Miles collapsed and died on the spot.
Kite fled but was arrested within an hour while hiding in his mother’s house. He was hanged on Monday, February 25th, 1884, in Taunton Prison, and had the distinction of being the last man to be executed there.





Finally Rich's first view of the cathedral



The start of the crawl over deads to reach the poster




The poster with the remains of the original glue




Closeup of some of the local people named in the poster




Closeup of Colonel Northey in the poster



Oddfellers



Admiring the poster and debating the latest findings




Wooden top bearing for a stone crane




Old cigarette cards




old Ogden's cigarette card - a Birmingham boxer - 107 Jem Carney 1902





Files and Rasps


More research from Simon

Another great find was this 'transfer' of a file packet label.
It was stuck with mud above a well-used saw bench, maybe as a reference when ordering more files.
The label has dissolved leaving just the ink.

The absence of a 'Ltd.' after the name may indicate this is a pre-1849 label.

Barnsley & Sons is well documented in many great Urbex reports. Between its closure in 2004 and 2010ish there were some incredible photo's taken, after 2010 it seems more artifacts were taken than photo's. None however show any photos of a label similar to this one in Box.




unusual graffiti tally - super is mentioned several times in adjacent graffiti



Great trip - thanks for the navigation taking us back to see the poster, cards, and file imprints.

Dave





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Box Quarry - New Year's Eve tourist trip 2015
Posted: 02/01/2016 19:47:51
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Love the cigarette cards!

Jem Carney was a well known bare knuckle fighter and held many titles through his career - at least 2 fighters died challenging him!
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Box Quarry - New Year's Eve tourist trip 2015
Posted: 02/01/2016 23:18:27
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Here is a link to Jem Carney that someone sent me

[web link]

they also identified the other card for me as 695 - Childie Stuart

Heres a similar one

IP: 82.37.235.182 Edited: 02/01/2016 23:28:52 by dave_the_cave
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Box Quarry - New Year's Eve tourist trip 2015
Posted: 03/01/2016 11:06:16
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dave_the_cave wrote:

Here is a link to Jem Carney that someone sent me

[web link]




Fantastic article - 74 rounds! I wonder if any current fighter could stand that pace!
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Box Quarry - New Year's Eve tourist trip 2015
Posted: 03/01/2016 13:44:47
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Interesting.
I noted the "broken hands" bit in the article, so they never thought to progressively harden their fists!



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Posted: 03/01/2016 14:36:48
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This is what I like about old mines - it broadens the mind when you start doing a bit of investigating. Smile

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Posted: 03/01/2016 16:09:18
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John Horton, a quarryman, was hanged at Devizes goal on 1st Feb 1886 for the murder of his father and Charlotte Lindsey his 'common law wife'. He described himself as being "very provoked"
It takes little imagination to work out the motive.

I have the book "Some Notable Wiltshire Quarrymen" 2nd edition, 1978.

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Box Quarry - New Year's Eve tourist trip 2015
Posted: 03/01/2016 20:37:19
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That sounds like a fascinating read Roy, I've never heard of that one, I'll have to have a hunt for it now, unless you could scan and pdf it??


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Box Quarry - New Year's Eve tourist trip 2015
Posted: 03/01/2016 20:42:26
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Its quite a little book and will also be copyright.

I would ask Mike Moore to an eye out for one.

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