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Aditaddict

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Miners bravery medal and awards
Posted: 28/10/2015 20:11:17
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There is a huge collection of mining /miners medals and bravery awards ,coming up for auction in London next month
there are about 30 lots some relating to some of the worst mining disasters in British history
this has to be one of the biggest assembled collections of these ever put togerther
All come with the history of why and who got these awards ,quite a few dying themselves in later accidents
The list includes
Wellington /Hague
Cannock chase
Holmwood
Black engine mine
Denaby main
Hulton No4 (Pretoria)x 4 lots
Sacriston
Markham
Hem Heath
Long lane
Littleton x 3 lots
disused pit Clifton nr Manchester
Taff Llantwit
Priestners pit
Hartley pit
Bank hall
Glynea pit
Maypole
Hamstead x 3 lots
Marsden colliery
Snowdown & Tilmanstone
Plus a load of mine rescue medals from Lanc's & Cheshire and Tankersley
All are described ,with the incredible stories of heroism shown by these very brave men
really touching reading
many in silver and some in various carats of gold
You would need about £200,000 to buy them all, but really nice to see such a great collection

see them here

https://www.spink.com/files/catalogue/15003.pdf

The mining related medals start at lot 221
IP: 81.97.19.210 Edited: 28/10/2015 20:13:37 by Aditaddict
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Posted: 29/10/2015 12:09:31
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I don't think my budget will stretch that far.
But I will transfer the relevant pages from the catalogue into the database for each mine.
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Posted: 29/10/2015 14:41:10
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In doing so I found 4 of the locations weren't even the database.

So I had to track those down too.

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Posted: 29/10/2015 15:01:25
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Thanks Chris ,Great stuff ,these brave men should never be forgotten
Just a thought ,i'm not very good with computers, but you can copy photos of those medals as I have copied photos off that site in the past,but then again you probably knew that LoL
IP: 81.97.19.210 Edited: 29/10/2015 15:06:57 by Aditaddict
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Miners bravery medal and awards
Posted: 29/10/2015 15:45:54
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Now I know what to look out for when I go to a car boot.

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Cutting coal in my spare time.
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Miners bravery medal and awards
Posted: 30/10/2015 13:29:53
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Aditaddict wrote:

Thanks Chris ,Great stuff ,these brave men should never be forgotten


Curious to know how this collection was brought together. I think these medals and their moving stories should be on display in a relevant museum (s) so these men are never forgotten. There is danger now of the collection being broken up.

Were they given to various museum (s) in the first place I wonder, that have since closed?

ancestors on both sides of my family worked in the coal mines, and we should never forget what they did. I might be wrong, but I have a feeling there is a danger of this happening

Think it's all very sad,

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Posted: 30/10/2015 14:35:51
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There was a cluster from the Wigan area.

Perhaps a collector from that area has expired ?
Or needed cash.
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Posted: 30/10/2015 20:26:21
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This auction appears to include a number of private collections, military, civilian and honours. There is likely to also be some individual lots as well as there are always families selling heirlooms.

It appears that the collection of private collector of mining and civilian gallantry awards comprises much (maybe all) of this section.

This is supposition I hasten add - but is based on a little experience in the field of major auction houses.

Darrowdelf asked "Were they given to various museum (s) in the first place I wonder, that have since closed?"

When privately owned museums close then it is up to the proprietors what happens to the collections.

When publically owned museums close, they have to follow a set of rules laid down by the Museums Association and the Museums, Libraries and Archives Council. These state that donors must be consulted wherever they can be traced, that objects should be passed onto other museums whenever possible, that any sales should by the last resort, and that the proceeds of any sales should be applied to conserving the remaining collections. The result is that when publically owned museums close, most objects are passed onto other museums whenever possible.

For these reasons, I doubt that many if any of the medals in this auction have come from publically owned museums.

Potential donors may wish to check whether the museum they are donating objects to is publically owned or privately owned, and also its written disposal policies. With an increasing number of local authority museums being passed onto trusts in these times of austerity, the detailed constitution of the trust and its written disposal policies may be worth checking. There have been a couple of instances when a museum trust has become insolvent and the collections have been legally deemed assets and hence obliged to be sold off to benefit the creditors. In the field of mining museums, the most infamous was the closure of Chatterly Whitfield Mining Museum in the mid 1990s, in the aftermath of which the collections were deemed to be assets and sold off. This lamentable incident was a wake-up call to museum trusts all over the country. As a result, many museum trusts established separate collection-owning trusts to legally separate the collections from the museums in the event of insolvency. Potential donors of objects to museum trusts may wish to check such details before deciding on a course of action.

IP: 92.3.234.102 Edited: 30/10/2015 20:28:28 by Graigfawr
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Miners bravery medal and awards
Posted: 23/11/2015 15:38:40
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I'm pleased to report we were able to get the three medals for Pretoria, Wellington and Sacriston.
We would loved to have got more but being publicly funded and with ever shrinking budgets...you all know the story! Still mustn't grumble, there's three significant awards for bravery saved for the nation and soon to go on public display at Caphouse Colliery.
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