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Posted: 28/08/2015 13:40:15
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/11830226/Nazi-gold-train-found-live.html

Well not quite as revealing as we were led to believe. Who's surprised?

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Posted: 28/08/2015 13:49:02
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It's next to the shaft filled with Harley Davidsons! IP: 81.157.123.37 Edited: 28/08/2015 14:00:40 by Tamarmole
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Posted: 28/08/2015 13:56:34
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One would have thought it would be relatively easy to find an old walled up railway tunnel - on account of it having a railway, or at least the remains of one leading up to it? Confused IP: 188.39.178.242
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Posted: 28/08/2015 14:24:15
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I didn't give this story much credibility when I first heard about ita few weeks ago. After all, how can you simply 'lose' a train on a stretch of railway linking A to B? Surely any blocked up tunnel would be excavated, the train found and the route re-opened?
However, it appears Walbrzych (apologies if I've spelt it wrong!) is in an area that contains many miles of tunnels and bunkers that were excavated by the Germans between 1942 and 45 - for unknown purposes, although possibly it was intended to move war production factories here to be safe from Allied bombing. It is quite likely that at least some of these complexes were served by spurs leading off the main lines.
It would then be entirely possible route the train on to such a branch, run it into the tunnel and blow in the entrance behind it.
However, there would presumably be some surviving witnesses, but in the turmoil of the last months of the war they would become widely scattered and have many more immidiate issues to deal with!
As mentioned above though, the fact remains that it would be relatively easy to ascertain the route of old branches and sidings, even after the rails had been removed, by the surviving earthworks and the old tunnel entrances themselves would be obvious, even if blown in. A fascinating story and I can't wait to hear the next development.
I may, unknowingly have even passed near the site back in 1990 on the footplate of a Polish Pt47 2-8-2 steam loco as I cab rode various locos around this area in the last days of polish steam. Colin.
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Posted: 28/08/2015 14:25:20
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maybe the Nazis covered their tracks..... Tongue

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Posted: 28/08/2015 14:37:35
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Perhaps the Amber Room is in there as well! Shocked IP: 188.39.178.242
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Posted: 29/08/2015 16:42:45
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Is it REALLY credible that GPR could pick up the shape of a train through how many metres of ground? If it was so easy would we not be using it to find caves, mines, and the like? GPR seems to produce fairly woolly results through even one or two metres (if we believe what we see on Time Team) or has the technology made leaps and strides in recent years? This whole story sounds very dodgy to me.


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Posted: 29/08/2015 17:51:18
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Well from the reports they have enough detail from G.P.R. to tell it's an armored train.
Quite an achievement if the train is standing in a tunnel or buried in rubble.

Strange that no one else get's such performance! Devil
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Posted: 29/08/2015 18:18:56
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Never underestimate the Poles ... didn't they develop Enigma.

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Posted: 29/08/2015 18:39:13
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Monty Stubble wrote:

Never underestimate the Poles ... didn't they develop Enigma.


The Germans developed the Enigma machine, so far as I know the Poles cracked the code of the early machine prior to WW2 and they passed that info on to the allies, Turing et all did the work on the later Enigma stuff during WW2.

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Posted: 29/08/2015 19:17:57
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It seems yet another story of artefacts buried accidentally during the last war.
We have had stories of buried brand new spitfires in Burma and goodness kno how many U.S.A.A.F planes buried in Greenland ice, not to mention forgery plates,of British Banknotes, thrown in sealed containers, into lakes in Bavaria.
Lots of ideas, but not many actual revelations.
Time will tell if it is yet another story, with factual evidence difficult to comeby.
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Posted: 29/08/2015 23:20:50
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Post removed, as nothing new in post!Blush

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Posted: 31/08/2015 14:04:09
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May be something new in this lot. (sorry about the source.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3216741/A-family-brutally-murdered-secret-police-threats-deathbed-confession-Treasure-hunter-spent-40-years-searching-Nazi-gold-train-reveals-dark-secrets.html
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Posted: 11/09/2015 21:37:08
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The saga continues.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/11858900/Polish-man-finds-Nazi-underground-shelter-in-gold-train-tunnel-system.html
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Posted: 12/09/2015 22:36:20
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Just getting crazy now! Roll Eyes

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/update-three-yes-three-nazi-gold-trains-suspected-in-to-be-found-in-the-tunnels.html

Getting into real realm of fantasy now...none of the Project Reise tunnels were ever completed, or used IIRC, just left as un-finished shells... Were there a fully equipped, active bunker like is now being suggested, on the scale they're talking about, surely it would have been known about...

Makes whole story much less plausible than a train driven into a tunnel and the entrance then dynamited...

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Posted: 23/10/2015 21:54:31
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You wait 70 years for a gold train to come along and then three appear at once.........

Anyhow - how many errors can be seen in the following images of the alleged 'gold train'?

http://www.argunners.com/images-of-the-infamous-polish-gold-train-unearth/

Lighting looks wrong, train looks too museum like, decals look Photoshoped on........
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Posted: 23/10/2015 22:06:28
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Haha looks good though! Ok it's a hoax for sure but quite well done ??
Totally into the realms of fantasy now....imagine if you actually DID find something like that. You'd be an UrbEx legend for life!Thumbs Up

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Posted: 23/10/2015 22:29:40
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To bring the topic onto mining how about this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/8688732/British-POWs-murdered-after-being-forced-to-hide-Nazi-artwork-down-coal-mine.html

Off Topic

as artwork not gold Roll Eyes

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Posted: 09/11/2015 05:01:40
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Latest from RT.

https://www.rt.com/news/321250-nazi-train-radar-search/

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Posted: 09/11/2015 10:26:28
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Morlock wrote:

Latest from RT.

https://www.rt.com/news/321250-nazi-train-radar-search/


As I predicted earlier - the Amber room is reputed to be inside Roll Eyes

Mind you unless you believe the Nazi's really did get to the moon its got to be either totally destroyed or somewhere.....
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