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Gavin

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Posted: 07/06/2011 23:39:08
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The time to start worrying is when the wild life has got teeth and can move faster than you.!!


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Posted: 07/06/2011 23:39:27
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RichardLevett wrote:

I once saw an otter quite happily living in a Welsh slate mine

I've heard that they go underground to catch bats ...

... which I suspect poses somewhat of a dilemma for the conservationists.

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Peter Burgess

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Posted: 07/06/2011 23:44:42
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Gavin wrote:

The time to start worrying is when the wild life has got teeth and can move faster than you.!!


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If the Godstone worms get to that stage, I'll be wondering what it was that I had been eating!

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Posted: 08/06/2011 15:34:28
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RJV wrote:

DCRO were asked to go to the help of a six week old calf which had fallen into old mine workings. Local cavers had already been down at the request of the farmer and reported the animal to be alive. A DCRO team of a dozen attended and in an operation lasting nearly four hours they successfully brought the animal to the surface.
The calf was either very lucky or very skilful. It jumped an initial 4 metres or so down the mine entrance. Then it ignored the first underground shaft on offer in favour of descending the next (5 metres) - wisely without making use of a rather dangerous iron ladder. Now gaining in confidence it made its way to the top of the next pitch (21 metres) which it descended rapidly and again without using a rope cleverly avoiding terminal velocity with the little used (and rarely successful) ricochet method. One more adrenaline hit descending a final 9 metre pitch and it found a side passage in which to make itself comfortable while it tried to work out how to get back up. It is now believed to be looking for a good caving club. Any offers?




Similar tale was told at "Browt'n" (Cumberland) where workings approaching outcrop from Buckhill Pit supposedly "wholed oot unner a coo". Unable to lift, push, cajole or otherwise get the unfortunate beast back up the hole into the field it was said to have been led a mile or so through the workings to pit bottom and sent up in the cage for a lad to lead it back to it's pasture.
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Posted: 09/06/2011 00:45:17
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It would probably be a dipper Rich they tend to nest in adit entrances,what about the fossilised horse in coves?,looked but never found it,supposed to be there.

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Dean Allison

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Posted: 12/06/2011 18:23:49
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Seen the usual stuff, frogs, fish, newts, dragonflies etc. bats too, though i reported that one to the BCT and its being looked after. Yestreday I actually saw dog prints in a mine. What kind of irresponsible idiot takes a dog in a mine though?? IP: 92.23.124.163
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Posted: 12/06/2011 18:57:59
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Dean Allison wrote:

What kind of irresponsible idiot takes a dog in a mine though??


Quite a few people do I think. As long as you make sure it doesn't crap everywhere am not entirely certain what the problem is.

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Posted: 12/06/2011 19:00:06
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rjv....i agree.....have been underground with someone who had a dog in tow and apart from trying to persuade her out of the underground lakes we didn't have any problems. she even wondered off on her own occassionally.

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Posted: 12/06/2011 19:05:04
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I'm not sure if Miles was joking or not when he said he'd got a little cap-lamp for his dog! IP: 77.96.20.146
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Posted: 12/06/2011 19:27:14
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I have taken one of my dogs underground (kept her on a lead though). I don't see why it has been caused iresponsible? I do not consider it makes me an idiot!! Guns IP: 92.26.178.151
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Posted: 12/06/2011 20:23:11
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It doesnt make you an idiot. I had a friend who used to take their black spaniel underground - they had a body harness for it and a large cave sack. If the descent was open ( not against rocks) then the dog was attached to rope and descended or ascended, if rocks were involved the dog was put into the cave sack and lowered or hoisted; it would often have its front paws and head sticking out. It also had a tikka round its neck; it rearely would wonder off. It did OFD 2 to 1 thru trip, and numerous other trips. If it pooped it was cleared up by the owner. It didnt make this person irresponsible or an idiot. On an occasion, the dog was even used to find a casualty.

Pretty cool really
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Posted: 12/06/2011 20:42:37
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A quick photo search:





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Posted: 12/06/2011 20:45:41
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Don't have a dog but have been on trips with people that did, it was done sensibly with no problems. It was quite nice having them along Thumb Up

I think I recall seeing what we were told were otter tracks in a mine in Devon.

I've seen a few skeletons of animals in the mines in Surrey where they have the curious habit of making a circular nest of stones around themselves as they expire Big Grin
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Posted: 12/06/2011 20:51:33
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Once took a mate's dog into Cwm Croseor mine, it didn't poop anywhere, it fell in the dam at the bottom of the incline! - infact as I recall it even made it to the top of the incline, had lunch with us and came out all happy.

Yes Miles's dog Daisy does have a lamp, she wears it round her neck!

Mind you I've seen bats, rats and birds in mines as well as nasty looking spiders. (SWMBO and Number 1 Daughter both loathe spiders, so I have to go in first and check/clear the entrance of any hole first!!)

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Posted: 12/06/2011 22:42:36
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20+ years ago I had a terrier who always came underground with me. He used to walk about a foot or less from my right boot on surface with no lead and he used to do the same underground. A mine tunnel is quite a bit roomier than the usual rabbit/fox hole most terriers go down lol. He even used to walk up ladders that weren't totally vertical.

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Peter Burgess

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Posted: 13/06/2011 09:07:41
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I can't see a real problem with dogs in mines, depending on circumstances, of course. Some humans I am more wary of. Those that nick stuff and scribble their names on the walls. Dogs don't do that!

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Dean Allison

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Posted: 13/06/2011 13:40:00
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I'd like to apologise for my statement earlier. It was a thoughtless outburst and after seeing these pics, the dogs do indeed look quite happy. I just had no idea that folk took dogs underground and when I saw the footprints in the mine the other day I was just a bit concerned as there was a lot of rusty metal stuff under the water and mud and was a bit worried about the dog's paws.

Once again, very sorry for what i said and I didn't mean to offend anyone.
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Posted: 13/06/2011 15:56:41
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The wildlife is abundant inside the entrances of certain greensand quarries under the North Downs in Surrey. Species recently seen include European cave spider:- an impressive orb-web weaver, complete with tear-drop shaped egg cases.
Woodlice and a species of crane-fly(?) - good, abundant spider food!

Also centipedes, millipedes, and a brown lacewing- like insect, I could'nt identify. Smile

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Dean Allison

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Posted: 13/06/2011 16:06:36
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There is some weird larvae at the entrance to Tynebottom mine. Someone said they were dragonfly , which looked right to me, but they were covered in calcite so god knows how long they been there. Never seen anything further in mines though except mosquitoes in Groverake which was a bit weird. IP: 92.30.167.101
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Posted: 13/06/2011 18:10:55
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Manicminer wrote:

Otters, rabbits, fish, newts, tadpoles, bats, owl, snake, worms, ants, frogs, mice, ducks, moths, spiders and an albino frog that's been in the one place for years - no idea what he gets to eat though.


how far underground did you find tadpoles??!!

really enjoying this thread. thanks everyone.
i used to work in sewers and from what i saw frogs and newts live happily there too.! Oh My God

saw them far more frequently than rats.
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