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Author 'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 12/07/2010 14:19:42
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The obvious difference between the remains you'd see for a cog and rung and a whim gin is having the horse walk around the shaft instead of to one side of it. I realise it's a long shot for survival of old stuff in the main coalfields due to re-use of sites and land improvement but you never find out unless you ask knowledgeable people! John Barnatt's been looking at the collieries of the east and west moors in the Peak (large Mining History article in preparation!), I know about Thatch Marsh through him and there's apparently another site with possible cog and rung gins at Ollerenshaw, but he's not seen any on the Eastern moors to date.

Going back to Jim Rieuwerts for a moment, he's pulled quite a few references from the Duchy and Chancery court records at the PRO to use of horse gins in the Peak around the 1630s, also to use of rag and chain pumps but irritatingly nothing that definitively states that there were horse-powered rag and chain pumps. The nearest thing is a reference to the 1630s Dovegang pumping where a witness commented "there were some that went with the power of horses". Mind you, there's also a really bizarre reference to someone trying to drain the gang mines with glass tubes at this time, which I'm sure will get a mention in vol. 4.... Blink

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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 12/07/2010 14:36:33
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Drop me an Email at ICLOK@talktalk.net with some pics of the site you mentioned... think this is going to be a tough one..... interesting tho....

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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 16/09/2010 19:11:31
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The book is currently at the printers and the official 'book launch' is planned to be on Wednesday, 20th October. This will be at the autumn 'Barmote Event' held at the Peak District Mining Museum - admission by invitation only, although those who have ordered the book in advance can collect at the event. IP: 93.97.126.165
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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 20/10/2010 18:41:22
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It's out!
The book launch and signing was held today at the Peak District Mining Museum. Another splendid book with superb pictures by Paul Deakin.
Volume 4 of the trilogy (!) still in production.
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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 20/10/2010 20:31:53
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Excellent news, can't wait to get a copy for myself

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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 20/10/2010 21:46:26
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I'm just about to log off and start reading my copy!

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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 08/11/2010 13:15:05
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Got mine from here:

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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 11/03/2016 16:17:05
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I have been trying to obtain a copy of volume 3 for some time without success. If anyone has a copy they would be prepared to sell , loan(for a finite period against a large deposit)or swap I would be very grateful. IP: 86.178.144.253
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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 11/03/2016 23:19:04
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I'm afraid I'm not willing to part with mine but there are copies in the local studies libraries at Sheffield and Matlock, also a copy in the lending library at Bakewell. Are there none on Ebay these days?

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'Lead Mining in Derbyshire' Volume 3 by Jim Rieuwerts
Posted: 11/03/2016 23:37:48
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Many thanks AR will visit Bakewell tomorrow. IP: 86.178.144.253
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Posted: 12/03/2016 13:34:36
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Sorted! Many thanks for the tip off AR! IP: 86.178.144.253
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