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Author Croesor & other mines on S4C (viewable online)
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Posted: 13/01/2010 12:31:51
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From the Daily Post: [web link]

Jan 13 2010 by Dan Beavan, Daily Post

EXCLUSIVE footage of some of the most stunning underground landscapes in Wales will be broadcast for the first time.

Tir Cymru looks at how both man and nature have impacted and changed the Welsh landscape over the centuries.

The programme follows nature expert Iolo Williams as he takes viewers to six of Wales’ most striking underground caves, tunnels and chambers.

Two of the sites – the wholly underground slate mine of Croesor in Gwynedd and the prehistoric cave of St Govan on the sea cliffs of South Pembrokeshire – have never previously featured in a television broadcast.

Iolo said: “Very few people are given the opportunity to see, let alone film, these striking but often dangerous locations underground.”

Climbing down an 80 feet deep chamber Iolo finds fascinating evidence of life in the Croesor quarry active from 1846 to 1930.

“For me, it was an adventure – for the quarrymen, it was their livelihood. I saw plenty of evidence of their lives and work in the tools, brackets, ropes and personal belongings left behind. I came across frozen pieces of old newspapers and an old packet of Capstan Full Strength among other items,” said Iolo.

Tir Cymru: O Dan yr Wyneb is on S4C next Sunday at 9pm. Also, Thursday, January 21 at, 9.30pm, with on-screen English subtitles.


To coin a phrase: I can't believe it's Croesor!

There's a preview at this [web link] which shows him abseiling, but I'd be surprised if he had gone into Croesor, which is particularly unstable - and I can't quite believe an H&S assessment would ever give the okay to go in there.

If it does turn out to be Croesor, one can but hope that nobody watches the programme, or NWCRO may well be rather busy...

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IP: 81.134.80.123 Edited: 18/01/2010 13:39:44 by Vanoord
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Croesor - really?
Posted: 13/01/2010 13:33:48
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Blimey. And given Croesor is flooded to adit level the only way he could have descended 80' into a chamber would be to drop into Ch 1E. And I'd have thought that was pretty unlikely. IP: 83.148.135.213
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Posted: 13/01/2010 14:01:50
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This is a guess, as I have only been along the adit in Croesor and not in Rhossyd at all, but could he be confusing Rhossyd with Croesor?

I know you can get a 4X4 up to Croesor, but also ignorant in these matters, could you get a 4X4 up the track past Conglog. Hmm perhaps I should be posting this on ME? I would have thought you would, even today, need to get a vehicle up with the gear (I am thinking of lighting more than cameras)

Anyway, surely the obvious one to visit would be Cwmorthin? Plenty would volunteer help and it is easily accessible. With a nearby caff.

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Posted: 13/01/2010 14:06:04
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It may be physically possible to get a 4x4 to Croesor, but that would be up the valley from Croesor village, not Cwm Orthin.

Similarly, it's physically possible to get a 4x4 to Rhosydd, ie up past Conglog.

However, in both cases it's on private land and thus not to be done.

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IP: 81.130.30.113 Edited: 13/01/2010 14:06:35 by Vanoord
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Posted: 13/01/2010 14:07:00
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AndyC wrote:

I know you can get a 4X4 up to Croesor, but also ignorant in these matters, could you get a 4X4 up the track past Conglog.


Certainly can, I've seen the farmer up there (with trailer) a couple of times

AndyC wrote:

Anyway, surely the obvious one to visit would be Cwmorthin? Plenty would volunteer help and it is easily accessible. With a nearby caff.


I'd have thought most underground filming in disused mines would be subject to the sort of restrictions that outdoor centres etc. have to abide by. Braich Goch [web link] would have been absolutely ideal I'd have thought.
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Posted: 13/01/2010 14:53:27
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I would not fret on this.
When they are filming anything they take whatever libeties they like, like setting up a dummy pitch for him to abseil back in the studio, filming the entrance to Croesor becuase they can get their new Range Rovers up to it, and underground somewhere completely different.
I have low opinion of filmakers when it comes to fact.

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Posted: 13/01/2010 15:06:50
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For those of us who don't get S4C could someone report on what is actually shown and if it is really Croesor.
Funny though, of all the ones to pick??

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Posted: 13/01/2010 15:14:50
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I once had the interesting experience of being involved in a visit by Blue Peter to a TBM holing through on the London Water Ring Main project, back in the late 1980s.

you would never know from watching it that some of the footage was shot ( at night ) on the footplate of the sister machine in Amec's yard, for one thing... or that the 'Anthea Turner' in the background in the pit bottom ( with her back to the camera ) was actually a receptionist from Thames Water... there's more, but you get the idea.....
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Posted: 13/01/2010 15:17:17
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Give credit to some film-makers, though. The BBC made a good effort filming underground for a series coming out soon on the Natural History Museum, as faithful as they could be when visiting the WW2 storage site in Surrey. Although it isn't a difficult place to get around!

Look out for it in the spring.


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Posted: 13/01/2010 15:19:51
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Yes Mr Derickman, I think you have them figured out.

Any SCMC on here today?

Remember the "999" reconstruction of the Cot Valley rescue, filmed at Snailbeach was it?
Perkins Level?

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Posted: 13/01/2010 15:22:03
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Peter Burgess wrote:

Give credit to some film-makers, though. The BBC made a good effort filming underground for a series coming out soon on the Natural History Museum, as faithful as they could be when visiting the WW2 storage site in Surrey. Although it isn't a difficult place to get around!

Look out for it in the spring.


Where was this, the one at Spring Quarry, Corsham?

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Posted: 13/01/2010 15:45:35
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Many moons ago (early 90s) we managed to get an Escort van up to Croeser! IP: 81.153.81.57
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Posted: 13/01/2010 15:52:25
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it's amazing where you can get to in an Escort van if you put your mind to it..... Shocked IP: 149.254.58.18
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Posted: 13/01/2010 15:56:51
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Mind you, you should have seen the van afterwards! IP: 81.153.81.57
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Posted: 13/01/2010 15:58:07
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[web link]

Peugeot van and 1980s Land Cruiser ( £1500 from ebay... ) on pipeline spread at Felindre, 2007.... towed the van up the hill ( top centre ) with the Toyota Laugh

those old-type Land Cruisers were great old things...

Spring Quarry? is that the same one Dr Who used to end up in half the time?
IP: 149.254.58.18 Edited: 13/01/2010 16:02:50 by derrickman
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Posted: 13/01/2010 16:12:45
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Could get all these up to Croesor in '78....



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Posted: 13/01/2010 19:31:04
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royfellows wrote:

Peter Burgess wrote:

Give credit to some film-makers, though. The BBC made a good effort filming underground for a series coming out soon on the Natural History Museum, as faithful as they could be when visiting the WW2 storage site in Surrey. Although it isn't a difficult place to get around!

Look out for it in the spring.


Where was this, the one at Spring Quarry, Corsham?


Err, no, in Surrey - Carthorse Quarry. The only things that were faked were the sample specimens, which were bought from the fish counter in Tesco.



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Posted: 13/01/2010 20:18:57
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Oh Peter, this is seriously funny.
But its right what I was saying about filmakers, they just have to do it, I dont think they can help it.

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Posted: 13/01/2010 20:22:11
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Tamarmole wrote:

Mind you, you should have seen the van afterwards!


In 1992 we had a rusty Mk.3 Escort estate. I drove it up to Croesor with the wife, dog and a sleeping baby in the back. Had a good look around the surface, drove down without any damage. The baby was still asleep, I think the rocking of the car helped.
Talking about films, there was the remains of a 1949 Buick 8 car at the bottom of the valley near the footpath.
It was featured in the 1950's film 'The Devil never sleeps'. It was driven over the side of the track near the mine and left where it stopped.


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Posted: 13/01/2010 20:26:08
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hymac580c wrote:

Tamarmole wrote:

Mind you, you should have seen the van afterwards!


In 1992 we had a rusty Mk.3 Escort estate. I drove it up to Croesor with the wife, dog and a sleeping baby in the back. Had a good look around the surface, drove down without any damage. The baby was still asleep, I think the rocking of the car helped.
Talking about films, there was the remains of a 1949 Buick 8 car at the bottom of the valley near the footpath.
It was featured in the 1950's film 'The Devil never sleeps'. It was driven over the side of the tracknear and left where it stopped.


Is it still there?
Or has someone dragged it out and fully restored it. This would not actually surprise me.

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Postings interleaved. I think I have the answer to my own question.
It would take Dr Who to restore this!

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