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Author What kit selection to buy for a beginner?
tomh

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What kit selection to buy for a beginner?
Posted: 07/12/2009 23:24:41
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Thats a good idea about the survival kit.

Back to the we socks i have searched the mentioned sites and cant find anything, does anyone have a direct link?
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What kit selection to buy for a beginner?
Posted: 07/12/2009 23:33:17
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Have a look at this link on Bernies:

[web link]

Long and short ones.
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What kit selection to buy for a beginner?
Posted: 07/12/2009 23:36:44
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simonrl wrote:

Just the one problem, where to put the emergency mars bar Shocked


next to the carbide ... Thumb Down


I've been using;

assorted miner's helmets ( from work ), variously V-Gard, Centurion or MSA Skulgard depending on what is in the car at the time. Centurion is probably best overall shape, MSA is a personal favourite for fit although the ( narrow ) full brim and lack of chinstrap are disadvantages, then again I don't do SRT and anything that will pass my 'retired 3rd XV prop' shape will pass any helmet known to man....

thermal longjohns and undershirt ( from work )

old twill or cotton trousers ( not jeans ) if it's chiily outside, or for wetter trips. Don't bother for dryer trips, just overalls

check shirt, plus old sweatshirt or light fleece if it's chilly outside

overalls ( from work )

wool socks

neoprene knee pads, when I have to!

lace-up boots for dry caves, wellies once or twice but not keen on these, have ended up with boots full of water both times - heavy and nasty

various gloves. The knitted yellow ones with plastic webbing are first choice, the light nitrile ones ( with the knitted backs and nitrile palms - usually green or yellow ) are good; both from work. Arco knitted gloves ( the ones with blue polka-dots ) are also good and surprisingly warm when wet.

miscellaneous lamp-belts. Usually a 'belay-belt' type, occasionally trusty ex-NCB leather belt which I've had for, oh, a long time, for walk-in mines like Box

Raptor One caplamp, light and long-lasting; some question about waterproofing of this lamp but I don't get wet enough to worry about this. Small ( 2 x AA ) Maglite as spare - keep meaning to strap this to the ear-defender bracket with cable-ties! Premier 'stinky' as last resort, usually left in car amid disapproving looks.... Blush

one-piece waterproof oversuit ( from work ). Useful for caves where there is a lot of splash or falling water, less use for wading. That said, with some tape round the legs ( to stop circulation of water ) and thermal long-johns underneath, quite effective for shorter wet trips.

ammo can! clanky, heavy, not very big and these days, leaky due to ageing seals. North Face 'messenger bag' found to be less than useful, will probably spend a few bob on a proper tacklebag and one of those big screw-top containers from ttxela ( hint. hint... )








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What kit selection to buy for a beginner?
Posted: 09/12/2009 23:19:13
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Thanks for all the useful replies

I have just bought a nice new comfy pair of dunlop purofort wellies as someone at home threw out my old pair by accident.

I have decided on the rope access kit, i have just bought a new petzl id and will place an order for the following from rigsystems:

4 foin steel krabs
4 foin oval krabs
petzl rescue pulley
lyons cowstails
petzl right hand ascender
petzl foot tape
petzl shunt
petzl vertex best helmet
petzl falcon ascent harness
petzl top croll chest harness

Should be enough to get me started

Good job i got a bonus at work else i wouldnt be able to afford the kit

I havent decided on lighting yet or sorted all my clothing out
Am planning to get some wet socks as there are plenty of wet places round here!
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Posted: 10/12/2009 10:53:42
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rikj wrote:

Tamarmole wrote:

I would strongly recommend that you get a small survival bag, stick it in the cradle of your helmet and forget about it - might just save your life one day.
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Excellent, why did I never think of that before? I stick mine in a pocket but that sounds much more logical.



Dont put it in your helmet. That cavity between the cradle and helmet is there for a reason. This is where the helmet goes to when it gets crushed absorbing the energy like the crumple zone of a car.
If you fill the hole in then, well it wont be pretty.
I think the BMC have some tests somewhere showing this
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Posted: 10/12/2009 14:39:10
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I have one of those little foil blankets, still in its 1980s wrapper, been in the corner of my ammo can for donkey's years. IP: 149.254.56.16
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What kit selection to buy for a beginner?
Posted: 11/12/2009 17:04:37
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derrickman wrote:

I have one of those little foil blankets, still in its 1980s wrapper, been in the corner of my ammo can for donkey's years.


I'm sure I've read accounts of those foil blankets deteriorating over time so when needed the packet is opened resulting in a shower of small pieces of foil rather than a useful blanket sized piece.

Might be worth replacing Smartass
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What kit selection to buy for a beginner?
Posted: 11/12/2009 17:15:44
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tomh wrote:

Thats a good idea about the survival kit.

Back to the we socks i have searched the mentioned sites and cant find anything, does anyone have a direct link?


Warmbac ones from Inglesport, I know they are dearer than Beaver, but the fit is far better!!!!!!! Get the long ones.

[web link]



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What kit selection to buy for a beginner?
Posted: 11/12/2009 21:37:14
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Mr Mike wrote:



Warmbac ones from Inglesport, I know they are dearer than Beaver, but the fit is far better!!!!!!! Get the long ones.



Just got those from Inglesport this week and will be trying them out tomorrow. If they are as good as they look then will be retiring the wellies for anything above welly depth.

Cracking bright red colour as well!


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What kit selection to buy for a beginner?
Posted: 12/12/2009 14:17:00
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ttxela wrote:

derrickman wrote:

I have one of those little foil blankets, still in its 1980s wrapper, been in the corner of my ammo can for donkey's years.


I'm sure I've read accounts of those foil blankets deteriorating over time so when needed the packet is opened resulting in a shower of small pieces of foil rather than a useful blanket sized piece.

Might be worth replacing Smartass


just had a look, it has been eaten away by damp carbide.... Roll Eyes

ok I will put it on my Xmas list alomg with one of those screw-top containers.... Innocent

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