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Author Mine below Carn Brea, 1890
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Mine below Carn Brea, 1890
Posted: 27/05/2009 14:45:49
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A friend sent me this rather poor copy of an archive photo of Carn Brea and would like to know which mine that may be. (I assume middle background). I guess we are looking roughly WNW so my tentative suggestion would be South Carn Brea. Any thoughts most welcome. Smile


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Mine below Carn Brea, 1890
Posted: 27/05/2009 14:56:37
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South Carn Brea.

My chum and I went for a look around here the other day. Atkinson's book tells of open levels which are explorable but there was no way we were finding them.
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Posted: 27/05/2009 16:10:37
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I remember one of Ron Hooper's 'expeditions' to this area when I was at CSM in the 1970s. No accessible workings were visible at that time. I am fairly sure that the location of the chimney in the lower centre of the photo, is the patch of shadow visible at the NE corner of the slopes of Carn Brea on Google Earth, and the light-coloured area on the lower East slopes of Carn Brea are also part of the workings

I'm not sure that you are reading Atkinson correctly, in this instance. I've found several times with this book that some descriptions are lifted more or less straight from Dines or some other older source, and refer to things which were either once to be seen long before, or ( as in this case ) known to be there but not necessarily visible. He doesn't actually say that they can be seen, and i would take it as a case of the latter alternative.

"Worked from 1858 to 1889, producing 22,000 tons of copper. A large burrow from this mine can be seen on the eastern slope of Carn Brea. Below the hillside, beside the footpath to Carnkie, is a cavernous system of levels.
Ref.: B. Atkinson: Mining Sites in Cornwall, Vol. 2, Dyllansow Truran (1994)"
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Posted: 27/05/2009 17:45:00
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Thanks for the replies. This is the GE view with the photo taken taken some way to the right.


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Posted: 27/05/2009 19:05:03
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I've been trawling about and putting any grid refs I can find on memorymap, I can't find any refs on that side of the hill which tends to suggest that anything that was ever there, has been lost for a long time IP: 82.32.67.44
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Posted: 27/05/2009 20:59:50
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I have had a damn good look around here years ago and turned up nothing, again inspired by Atkinson’s book.
What I did find however, (reading this Stuey) was the deep adit to Pascoes Shaft on the Basset mines. It’s in Chapel Coombe, right hand side, so Euney is on the left. If it had teeth it would bite you.
Bad air near the blockage.
Sorry, best I can do at this time of night drink problems and all that. Logging off.



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Posted: 28/05/2009 09:13:29
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any refs for that portal? I think I saw it some time ago, but can't see it on MemoryMap or GE IP: 149.254.224.18
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Mine below Carn Brea, 1890
Posted: 28/05/2009 10:10:24
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derrickman wrote:

any refs for that portal? I think I saw it some time ago, but can't see it on MemoryMap or GE


I have just looked at the map but it’s difficult for me to pinpoint. It is however, very easy to find as there is a stream that passes under the road with obvious bridge parapets each side. The adit discharges into this, the portal is probably less than 20 metres from the road. Look for a cutting leading into the stream and follow it. There was a rusting steel mesh gate hanging off years ago, and this may now be overgrown.
My best estimate is 692406

There is not a lot to see in there as it leads to a total collapse, and regardless of water pouring through the air is poor there. A lot of the level has been rendered and there is the date "1910" carved into it.
Hope that this is helpful

I have a notebook with entries going back to 1989 of all of my moochings. You would be surprised at what’s in it.


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Posted: 28/05/2009 11:36:53
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that's the one. I have it as 69159 40778. It isn't visible on GE because of the overhanging foliage, but you can see it ok on MM.

I first saw it in 1976, straining the old memory cells a bit I find that the reason we were stooging around there with RH was that SW Water put a pump in Fortescue's Shaft during the drought of that year and were tankering water away for use. CSM did some research for this.

I did some pottering about around there in the mid-90s while working in Cornwall for a few months, on the Polperro Sea Outfall as it happens. Anyone have any details of THAT on here?

I didn't realise it was the Pascoe's Shaft deep adit, it was simply recorded as 'blocked but flowing' to the best of my recollection
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Posted: 28/05/2009 23:45:34
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found the following little snippet.........

In a depression between the Monument and the Castle is the remains of the Smugglers' Cave blocked by the Council in the 1980s with rocks to stop children from entering. This tunnel is rumoured to travel from the top of the Carn down into Redruth town but is likely to have been abandoned mine workings. This may have been confused with the separate tunnel running from the castle down to St Uny’s church which was blocked off for safety reasons c.1970 by the castle owners.
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Mine below Carn Brea, 1890
Posted: 28/05/2009 23:51:21
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Mine below Carn Brea, 1890
Posted: 29/05/2009 03:32:50
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Sounds like Barncoose Adit to me.....

Interesting though....

I wonder how well blocked it is.
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Mine below Carn Brea, 1890
Posted: 29/05/2009 08:08:50
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I remember the Smugglers' Cave, it was open when I was in Camborne. That may have been what Atkinson was referring to, although the location is wrong and from recollection it wasn't large

asking about, the blocking of the Wheal Uny Church adit may have been done by a contractor from Nottingham called Foraky Ltd. They were active in the Cornish mines, mainly Geevor and Pendarves, in the 60s and early 70s before being replaced by Thyssen at Wheal Jane and most notably, the driving of the inclined sub-main shaft at Geevor.

Foraky had a gang of men occupied for some years on the clearance and maintenance of various adits in and around the South Crofty sett, I knew some of them when I worked for Foraky in the early 80s. They had a cactus grab on hire to Pendarves for deepening the shaft, I remember calling there on at least two occasions with seals and other spares for it. Foraky closd their mining division in the early 80s, although it was already moribund by then, and I believe that any plant was abandoned where it lay.

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Posted: 29/05/2009 11:10:26
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This is view looking down the rough direction of the tunnel/adit. At the risk of sounding stupid what was the point of what must have an extemely difficult operation? No doubt I'm missing the obvious.


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Posted: 29/05/2009 13:07:58
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it wouldn't be hard to block and adit like that. 9 bag grout pan plus a couple of pallets of cement on the back of a Transit, couple of packs of blocks taken the same way.. some local rocks, there are plenty up there.. simple job for a gang already engaged in similar work locally IP: 149.254.56.96
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Posted: 29/05/2009 13:24:07
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Sorry didn't explain myself very well. I meant what would the point of an adit at that particular location in the first place?

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