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Peter Burgess

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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:01:00
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[web link]

A frustratingly short video clip! Maybe the loco gives a clue to this location?

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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:03:14
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The youtube link isnt working, try re-posting it. IP: 81.79.249.43
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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:13:20
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The link works for me.

As to location, I'm probably hopelessly wrong but the building towards the end reminds me of Dinorwig .


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Peter Burgess

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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:16:03
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I messed it up but corrected it a minute or so after first posting. Apologies.

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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:29:56
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Looks like a Dinorwig Hunslett to me, but I stand ready to be corrected!

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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:30:11
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Doesn't look like Dinorwic. I guess it's somewhere around Bleanau. I believe Manod Quarry were devotees of the 'Ceir Gwyllt' or mono-wheeled sleding device. This url would seem to support this. [web link] IP: 86.132.208.242
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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:35:20
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From the same site a superb account of a Blondin Inspection [web link] IP: 86.132.208.242
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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:37:42
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BertyBasset wrote:

Doesn't look like Dinorwic. I guess it's somewhere around Bleanau. I believe Manod Quarry were devotees of the 'Ceir Gwyllt' or mono-wheeled sleding device. This url would seem to support this. [web link]


Ceir Gwyllt were only used at Graig Ddu. They were used to return the workers to Manod (an district of Blaenau Ffestiniog) not used at Manod Quarry.

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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:38:28
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Indeed, the Ceir Gwyllt tended to be a Blaenau thing and Graig Ddu is the site most associated with them - I think they were invented there?

However, I've got an odd recollection of them also being used at Dinorwic - although this may be a confusion with the name also being applied to the velocipedes used on the Padarn railway.


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Posted: 27/01/2009 23:39:04
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The locomotive in that clip is Kidbrooke, and was used at Oakeley Quarry.

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Posted: 28/01/2009 10:36:51
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JohnnearCfon wrote:

The locomotive in that clip is Kidbrooke, and was used at Oakeley Quarry.


That could be the clincher! Smile

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Posted: 28/01/2009 11:37:12
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Thanks for working it out. I am fascinated by these old archive clips and it is nice to add a bit to them, if only to know where they are.

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Posted: 28/01/2009 12:20:59
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Vanoord wrote:

Indeed, the Ceir Gwyllt tended to be a Blaenau thing and Graig Ddu is the site most associated with them - I think they were invented there?

However, I've got an odd recollection of them also being used at Dinorwic - although this may be a confusion with the name also being applied to the velocipedes used on the Padarn railway.


I think the only reason they were used at Graig Ddu was because the two lower inclines (which is where the two clips I have seen were filmed) were a lot shallower than most inclines. I doubt they were even used on the top (third) incline at Graig Ddu.

Yes, the velocopedes at Dinorwic were also know as Wild Cars. I have never read of the "Graig Ddu type" being used there.

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Posted: 28/01/2009 16:53:43
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The video clip by Peter Burges is from the film 'Y Chwarelwr'.
Made in the 1930's in Blaenau Ffestiniog town and the quarries. It shows quite a few scenes from the quarries and the town.
It was made in three reels and the last of the three reels has been missing for several years, but the original script had been saved.
About four years ago the missing part of the film was re made using similar locations and using actors which resembled the original.
The finished film was shown on S4C tv and many people recorded it off the tv. The film and a documentary about the film was then made available for sale.
It was a drama about a slate quarryman and the family life.


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