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JohnnearCfon Joined: 22/12/2005 Location: Sir Caernarfon View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 24/08/2019 20:08:21 Reply \| Quote A friend of mine has asked me how much one half of a former coal mine head gear would be worth. They want to put one in the middle of a village in Derbyshire (Westhouses) which had quite a coal mining industry up to a few decades ago. They want to commemorate this in some way. Can anyone help please? IP: 86.150.0.65
Morlock Joined: 31/07/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 24/08/2019 20:39:44 Reply \| Quote Assume you mean one of these, one dumped on a hillside in South Wales. (click image to open full size image in new window) Edit: The image is from 2006, was still there in 2013 but does not appear on latest sat images. Both halves were there in 2013. IP: 86.130.196.252 Edited: 24/08/2019 21:00:08 by Morlock
Boy Engineer Joined: 20/06/2008 Location: Derby View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 24/08/2019 20:55:02 Reply \| Quote A friend of mine has asked me how much one half of a former coal mine head gear would be worth. Just guessing on this one, but I reckon about half what you’d pay for a complete one (less the cost of the bolts). And complete ones are about twice the price of the halves. IP: 31.185.47.152
Morlock Joined: 31/07/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 24/08/2019 21:09:11 Reply \| Quote I suspect one half would equal one monument and command a higher premium as the complete wheel equals two monuments? IP: 86.130.196.252
wheldale Joined: 03/10/2008 Location: Brighouse, West Yorkshire View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 24/08/2019 23:37:05 Reply \| Quote Maybe try Wakefield council, they have several in storage for future mining monuments. IP: 86.8.200.254
John Lawson Joined: 09/12/2010 Location: Castle Douglas Dumfries & Galloway View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 25/08/2019 21:44:21 Reply \| Quote Just a thought! I would have a basis of its weight in scrap iron as the basic bottom price! As it has been worked Inam suggesting 50% over its scrap value! IP: 176.24.249.161
Praada Joined: 03/03/2017 Location: Tibshelf View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 27/08/2019 16:04:08 Reply \| Quote Where in westhouses would it be placed? I live in Tibshelf, Pinxton has one, and blackwell, would be nice to see one in westhouses too. Not much to see there currently, most people don't even realise they've changed village when entering from blackwell -- "I got enough batteries to live down here indefinitely!" IP: 87.224.25.210
JohnnearCfon Joined: 22/12/2005 Location: Sir Caernarfon View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 27/08/2019 22:37:39 Reply \| Quote I am not sure. It was known (by a neighbour of a friend) that I had an interest in such things so I was asked. I said I would try and find out. I have seen the one in Blackwell, very nice. IP: 86.150.0.65
rikj Joined: 27/12/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 27/08/2019 22:39:51 Reply \| Quote wheldale wrote: Maybe try Wakefield council, they have several in storage for future mining monuments. Some at Caphouse also. The mining pedant in me says that a memorial head gear wheel should be pretty much the same dimensions as the originals. IP: 86.169.12.134
ttxela Joined: 04/09/2007 Location: Cambs View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 28/08/2019 08:33:30 Reply \| Quote Morlock wrote: I suspect one half would equal one monument and command a higher premium as the complete wheel equals two monuments? Although every time I've seen a half wheel used as a monument it's always the top half so probably harder to sell the bottom halves..... IP: 195.171.131.2
Mr.C Joined: 23/03/2008 Location: North Staffordshire View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 28/08/2019 11:04:00 Reply \| Quote ttxela wrote: Morlock wrote: I suspect one half would equal one monument and command a higher premium as the complete wheel equals two monuments? Although every time I've seen a half wheel used as a monument it's always the top half so probably harder to sell the bottom halves..... The top halfs are always in better nick, cause the bottom is more prone to damp & rust. -- We inhabit an island made of coal, surrounded by a sea full of fish. How can we go wrong....... IP: 46.69.29.22 Edited: 28/08/2019 11:07:27 by Mr.C
Morlock Joined: 31/07/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 28/08/2019 13:18:31 Reply \| Quote I suppose the bottom 1/2 is weighed in and perhaps only the top 1/2 commands a premium. IP: 86.130.196.252
ttxela Joined: 04/09/2007 Location: Cambs View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 28/08/2019 14:05:58 Reply \| Quote Unless what we think are half wheels are just really firmly set into their bases..... IP: 195.171.131.2
Buckhill Joined: 08/04/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 28/08/2019 17:16:40 Reply \| Quote Morlock wrote: I suppose the bottom 1/2 is weighed in and perhaps only the top 1/2 commands a premium. ..........which leads to the suspicion that some unscrupulous persons may upend bottom halves and sell them as tops IP: 86.175.63.105
Boy Engineer Joined: 20/06/2008 Location: Derby View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 28/08/2019 22:49:05 Reply \| Quote If you travel to old mining areas in Australia, you’ll see where the bottom halves go. It’s almost like they were sticking through...... IP: 31.185.47.152
Morlock Joined: 31/07/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 29/08/2019 14:18:02 Reply \| Quote Buckhill wrote: ..........which leads to the suspicion that some unscrupulous persons may upend bottom halves and sell them as tops The "wheel Trade" appears to be a very murky business! IP: 86.130.75.76
Boy Engineer Joined: 20/06/2008 Location: Derby View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 29/08/2019 14:49:28 Reply \| Quote Morlock wrote: Buckhill wrote: ..........which leads to the suspicion that some unscrupulous persons may upend bottom halves and sell them as tops The "wheel Trade" appears to be a very murky business! What goes around, comes around. How long can we spin this one out? IP: 213.205.192.254
Morlock Joined: 31/07/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 29/08/2019 16:47:56 Reply \| Quote Boy Engineer wrote: Morlock wrote: Buckhill wrote: ..........which leads to the suspicion that some unscrupulous persons may upend bottom halves and sell them as tops The "wheel Trade" appears to be a very murky business! What goes around, comes around. How long can we spin this one out? For as long as the bearings are 'palm greased' by the unscrupulous. IP: 86.130.75.76 Edited: 29/08/2019 16:50:17 by Morlock
Jim MacPherson Joined: 02/09/2015 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 29/08/2019 16:58:28 Reply \| Quote Morlock wrote: Boy Engineer wrote: Morlock wrote: Buckhill wrote: ..........which leads to the suspicion that some unscrupulous persons may upend bottom halves and sell them as tops The "wheel Trade" appears to be a very murky business! What goes around, comes around. How long can we spin this one out? For as long as the bearings are 'palm greased' by the unscrupulous. I think you lot are stuck in a vicious circle, from which there is no escape, just ask Mr Kafka....., if there had been a manic cackle emoji I would have used it. Jim IP: 86.191.224.230
Morlock Joined: 31/07/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	Wanted - Mine Head gear Wheel (half) Posted: 29/08/2019 17:34:58 Reply \| Quote Jim MacPherson wrote: Morlock wrote: Boy Engineer wrote: Morlock wrote: Buckhill wrote: ..........which leads to the suspicion that some unscrupulous persons may upend bottom halves and sell them as tops The "wheel Trade" appears to be a very murky business! What goes around, comes around. How long can we spin this one out? For as long as the bearings are 'palm greased' by the unscrupulous. I think you lot are stuck in a vicious circle, from which there is no escape, just ask Mr Kafka....., if there had been a manic cackle emoji I would have used it. Jim I suspect we are affected by gyroscopic precession. IP: 86.130.75.76

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