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John Lawson

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Posted: 22/12/2016 19:38:41
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I have not seen a posting on this topic, but if someone has already done so I apologise.
Late last week I received an E-mail, from CAT's membership secretary to inform me that,in order to activate our BCA insurance this year, we had to provide details of the year in which we were borne.
I duly obliged, but then started to get a little concerned, since I have had to pay extra monies for insurances before.
One wonders if the next step is to cut out BCA insurance for us oldies!
I sincerely hope not, for the record I was born in 1942
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Posted: 22/12/2016 20:58:42
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My understanding is the insurer wants to understand if they are covering an aging population.

Hopefully the new student cavers will balance out us old farts.
IP: 94.8.152.0 Edited: 22/12/2016 20:58:49 by christwigg
Graigfawr

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Posted: 22/12/2016 21:32:24
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If you've any concerns or queries, contact Nick Williams over of ukcaving as he organises the BCA insurance scheme: he's very helpful.

When one considers that most other forms of insurance ask for the age of the insured, the BCA scheme has done well to avoid this issue for so long...

My understanding is that there has never been a significant claim on the scheme and that if a major claim were to be made then the insurers would quite possibly decline to renew the entire scheme for the following year.

The main purpose of the scheme is to provide landowners with peace of mind that they won't be liable for injuries or accidents in holes beneath their land or to third parties. The reassurance this provides landowners enables straightforward access conditions over most of the UK.

Yuletide blessings to you all; may your ropes never rub and your lights never dim.
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Posted: 22/12/2016 22:08:40
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I was at the BCA council meeting where this was discussed. It has nothing to do with insurance. I think concerns were raised about the number of us 'oldies' to try and get a handle on whether steps need to be take to attract new blood. Nothing untoward...

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Posted: 22/12/2016 23:01:56
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Many thanks for clarifying this! IP: 176.24.183.105
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Posted: 23/12/2016 14:00:09
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Provision of age data is optional. It is, as has already been said, nothing to do with age-limiting the policy, it's solely so BCA can get some idea of its demographic profile and plan accordingly.

Nick.
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Tin Miner

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Posted: 26/12/2016 18:32:38
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The only way forward these days with the younger generation is to take away their bloomin phones... That may well get some new younger blood into underground exploration/caving... IP: 94.175.21.78
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Posted: 26/12/2016 19:05:21
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Tin Miner wrote:

The only way forward these days with the younger generation is to take away their bloomin phones... That may well get some new younger blood into underground exploration/caving...


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"How people get on with these things as a mobile device I cannot begin to imagine, but it certainly explains a lot about peoples behaviour."
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John Lawson

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Posted: 27/12/2016 19:01:23
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I know we seem to have digressed from my original point, but I think the only way to encourage people including,youngsters,to become interested in underground activities, is to have guided tours, as is carried out at Nenthead.
Another strand is to contact, 'retired', covers, who might be persuaded that disused Mine exploration, is just a little easier than crawling about in a completely a wet crawl.
I base this on the fact that many cavers seem to have a pretty short, period of activity, which often ends when family commitments take over. Our hobby in principal can be taken up at nearly any age.

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Posted: 27/12/2016 20:14:21
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John Lawson wrote:

I know we seem to have digressed from my original point, but I think the only way to encourage people including,youngsters,to become interested in underground activities, is to have guided tours, as is carried out at Nenthead.
Another strand is to contact, 'retired', covers, who might be persuaded that disused Mine exploration, is just a little easier than crawling about in a completely a wet crawl.
I base this on the fact that many cavers seem to have a pretty short, period of activity, which often ends when family commitments take over. Our hobby in principal can be taken up at nearly any age.



Much as I prefer mines, caving can be done just as easily as Mine exploring. Many cavers explore mines and vice versa. You make it seem like there is a rigid adherence to one thing or the other. There isn't. If caves are flooded, most cavers will happily mooch around a mine. If I feel the need to wallow in filth, I'll go caving ;-)

I'll agree wholeheartedly that we need younger people, but we'll have to agree to disagree on how.

I've taken plenty of younger people (teens, 20's) exploring. Though they all seemed to enjoy the hell out of it, very few have come back for more. There's a thing called a social life that we have to compete with. That said, I was fairly late to exploring. It just never occurred to me that people would do it as a hobby. And it's through the much demonised "urbex" that I found exploring mines.

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