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Posted: 22/11/2016 19:54:28
Peter Burgess wrote:

Please don't paint a picture of a personal fight with NewStuff.


That was never my intention, I'm also a little surprised that you interpret it in that way.
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Posted: 22/11/2016 19:56:16
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I think what we are all doing here is going around in circles.


Er, yes.

I had rather hoped it wouldn't head that way.
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Posted: 22/11/2016 19:58:49
I've watched this thread 'develop' for some time. I knew nothing of the area or the issues in question prior to reading the thread. Now, from an outsiders perspective can I comment that, while most of the comments are reasonable some are contradictory and, assuming it's true that, as commented neither 'sides' of the issue are registered on AN can I suggest that it's time to step back, let egos and tempers cool and allow this thread to fall from the to of the 'new post' list? Smile

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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:15:46
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Peter Burgess wrote:

Please don't paint a picture of a personal fight with NewStuff.


That was never my intention, I'm also a little surprised that you interpret it in that way.
Eh? No - it was Roy's comment about "falling out".Smile

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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:17:07
I guessed that, and no offence taken.

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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:19:16
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Peter - You compare rape to spraypaint in a mine. Can you see why I think you're a dickhead for making such a stupid comparison? Brian, as an adult, has to accept that he has caused some of this. The fact that the others are over-reacting in a nasty way does not absolve him of this responsibility. As long as he sticks his head in the sand and carries on, they will carry on as well. This won't take much escalation from this point to get nasty. Both sides need to grow up.

Morlock - Noted, apologies for the terse reply.
No, I compared intimidation and character assassination, which is an offence depending on circumstances, to rape, which is an offence. I know you have always thought me a dickhead, so don't worry about reminding me from time to time. Smile My purpose in contributing to this topic is to discuss the bullying, not the vandalism, although there is clearly a connection.

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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:25:57
Peter Burgess wrote:

NewStuff wrote:

Peter - You compare rape to spraypaint in a mine. Can you see why I think you're a dickhead for making such a stupid comparison? Brian, as an adult, has to accept that he has caused some of this. The fact that the others are over-reacting in a nasty way does not absolve him of this responsibility. As long as he sticks his head in the sand and carries on, they will carry on as well. This won't take much escalation from this point to get nasty. Both sides need to grow up.

Morlock - Noted, apologies for the terse reply.
No, I compared intimidation and character assassination, which is an offence depending on circumstances, to rape, which is an offence. I know you have always thought me a dickhead, so don't worry about reminding me from time to time. Smile My purpose in contributing to this topic is to discuss the bullying, not the vandalism, although there is clearly a connection.


Calling someone names and spraypainting a mine, exceedingly reprehensible though it is, is not and never will be outside of your addled little mind, comparable.

If you truly believe that they are, you are an idiot beyond help.

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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:29:00
To allow this to calm down, I am out of here. This is not UKCaving.


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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:37:55
Ah, the retreat.

Brian *is* partially at fault, and rape is not comparable to spraypaint in a mine. They are not difficult points to grasp.

I expect an apology when you figure out how wrong you are.

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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:43:22
Peter Burgess wrote:

Morlock wrote:

Peter Burgess wrote:

Please don't paint a picture of a personal fight with NewStuff.


That was never my intention, I'm also a little surprised that you interpret it in that way.
Eh? No - it was Roy's comment about "falling out".Smile


OK.Smile
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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:44:54
No problem, Morlock - the usual online confusion with who is talking with who.

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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:46:19
Mod's this thread is really going nowhere constructive could we lock it for a couple of days to give people the opportunity to chill a bit. IP: 86.134.157.197
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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:50:26
See the UKC post. I will not be chilling. Way past caring at this point.

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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:53:37
Just seen this on UKC posted by Brains! Where is the popcorn Big Grin
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Just had this lovely PM from NewStuff
Understand this.

I do not, and never have, condone what is happening in there. I have stated it, quite clearly, on several occasions. I do not suffer idiots at all, let alone gladly, and you may well be one, given your total lack of reading comprehension. Do not try to blame me for something I have never said or done. You don't want to bump into me underground after this performance of yours, because I'll quite happily knock your ******* teeth out. I do expect an apology should you ever get a clue and figure out just how wrong you are.


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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:54:42
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Mod's this thread is really going nowhere constructive could we lock it for a couple of days to give people the opportunity to chill a bit.


I concede (for what that's worth Smile )
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Posted: 22/11/2016 20:59:14
NewStuff wrote:

Ah, the retreat.

Brian *is* partially at fault, and rape is not comparable to spraypaint in a mine. They are not difficult points to grasp.

I expect an apology when you figure out how wrong you are.


Irrespective of whether Brian is, or is not at fault for some things that have happened, that still does not warrant him being bullied by anyone. I think you have missed Peter's point as well. I agree with you, spray painting a mine cannot be compared with rape (no matter how bad we may think that is). However, bullying/harassment is a serious criminal offence, as is rape!

I am not sure what you think Peter needs to apologise for?
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Posted: 22/11/2016 21:02:25
Existing? Laugh

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Posted: 22/11/2016 21:04:37
Tamarmole wrote:

Mod's this thread is really going nowhere constructive could we lock it for a couple of days to give people the opportunity to chill a bit.

It was never going to go anywhere except around in the same circles that it's been doing on UKC as everyone gets more and more worked up. That's why I asked for it to be locked way back on page 1.
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Posted: 22/11/2016 21:05:00
If he stopped, the bullying would stop. Cause and effect. But he's being stubborn, despite the fact his actions started this shitshow, and you lot are backing him up.

How in the **** do you not see this. It's written in neon paint in 30ft high letters for fucks sake. Until he backs down, they won't either, and this just get's worse.

They are only doing what they do because of his reaction. Once he stops, they will. It's boring if someone doesn't entertain you.

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Posted: 22/11/2016 21:05:02
OK, thread getting locked now.

Thought for the day. This site is for discussing mines; and this thread has gone far off discussing the mine and th damage to the mine.

No doubt I'll get the usual PMs accusing me of cencorship. C'est la vie.



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