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Posted: 01/04/2016 12:49:23
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I'm glad I asked now, fascinating stuff Thumb Up

Yes, a commentary on what is going on in the pictures would be a very worthwhile addition.
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Posted: 01/04/2016 14:35:28
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ttxela wrote:

I'm glad I asked now, fascinating stuff Thumb Up

Yes, a commentary on what is going on in the pictures would be a very worthwhile addition.


In a lot of cases i'm not 100% sure myself, but I will have a go tonight. Big Grin
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Posted: 01/04/2016 18:19:34
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Interesting that Cameron can't stomach nationalising the steel industry whereas Ted Heath did just that with Rolls Royce in 1971.

Mr Heath was faced with the prospect of the RAF being grounded, at a time when the Cold War was in full swing. At least we're not facing any aggressive behaviour from east of the Urals now...............erm........Sad


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Posted: 01/04/2016 19:15:36
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What we need to do is allow all of our industries to die, then we can fit into the EUSSR more compliantly. IP: 81.140.40.222
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Posted: 01/04/2016 19:52:41
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The Fresh Prince of Portreath wrote:

What we need to do is allow all of our industries to die, then we can fit into the EUSSR more compliantly.


Surely you mean 'Productive' industries, Europe has us listed as 'service & finance' - was it Napoleon who said 'a nation of shopkeepers' ??

Yup!, both tourism and banking are now industries !!.

I am finding it hard to understand the concept of 'Commonwealth', considering this is the outcome of a decision by one Commonwealth country affecting another.

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Posted: 01/04/2016 20:58:55
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Boy Engineer wrote:

BertyBasset wrote:

Interesting that Cameron can't stomach nationalising the steel industry whereas Ted Heath did just that with Rolls Royce in 1971.

Mr Heath was faced with the prospect of the RAF being grounded, at a time when the Cold War was in full swing. At least we're not facing any aggressive behaviour from east of the Urals now...............erm........Sad


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That's the nub isn't it. What's considered by the government to be strategic. Trident - yes, steel - no, coal - no, unconventional gas - yes - but that presumably is more to do with selling licences and fobbing the public off by saying it's strategic.

And speaking of which, what would happen to power generation, a lot owned by German and French companies if the UK say non to Europe?
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Posted: 01/04/2016 22:26:47
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Should I find myself at the end of my life from a health point of view, whilst in full operation, I will stroll into Brussels EU HQ with a shopping trolley full of explosives, shout Alan's Snackbar and blow the bastards up.

It won't make any difference, but I will get sent to hell in style.
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Posted: 01/04/2016 22:58:53
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And speaking of which, what would happen to power generation, a lot owned by German and French companies if the UK say non to Europe?


It will stay the same. After all those French and German companies are making a tidy profit from us. Why should they do anything to change that?

As for the government bailing out a failing British industry? It did that with our car industry and it still failed.

I hope that somehow our steel industry can be saved, but I don't know how.

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Posted: 01/04/2016 23:10:44
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The Fresh Prince of Portreath wrote:

Should I find myself at the end of my life from a health point of view, whilst in full operation, I will stroll into Brussels EU HQ with a shopping trolley full of explosives, shout Alan's Snackbar and blow the bastards up.

It won't make any difference, but I will get sent to hell in style.


If we get together, we could push a bigger trolley ?.

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Posted: 01/04/2016 23:17:06
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exspelio wrote:

The Fresh Prince of Portreath wrote:

Should I find myself at the end of my life from a health point of view, whilst in full operation, I will stroll into Brussels EU HQ with a shopping trolley full of explosives, shout Alan's Snackbar and blow the bastards up.

It won't make any difference, but I will get sent to hell in style.


If we get together, we could push a bigger trolley ?.


Given recent events this is crass beyond belief.
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Posted: 02/04/2016 01:17:35
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Tamarmole wrote:

exspelio wrote:

The Fresh Prince of Portreath wrote:

Should I find myself at the end of my life from a health point of view, whilst in full operation, I will stroll into Brussels EU HQ with a shopping trolley full of explosives, shout Alan's Snackbar and blow the bastards up.

It won't make any difference, but I will get sent to hell in style.


If we get together, we could push a bigger trolley ?.


Given recent events this is crass beyond belief.


Crass it may be, however unlike recent events, we are not talking about innocents here, we are talking about people who, mostly with little knowledge of or connection to this country, have nonetheless conspired to crush the economic life out of various parts of it. I find that offensive, and
if you dont............well you damn well should!
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Posted: 02/04/2016 01:36:26
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somersetminer wrote:

Tamarmole wrote:

exspelio wrote:

The Fresh Prince of Portreath wrote:

Should I find myself at the end of my life from a health point of view, whilst in full operation, I will stroll into Brussels EU HQ with a shopping trolley full of explosives, shout Alan's Snackbar and blow the bastards up.

It won't make any difference, but I will get sent to hell in style.


If we get together, we could push a bigger trolley ?.


Given recent events this is crass beyond belief.


Crass it may be, however unlike recent events, we are not talking about innocents here, we are talking about people who, mostly with little knowledge of or connection to this country, have nonetheless conspired to crush the economic life out of various parts of it. I find that offensive, and
if you dont............well you damn well should!


I've avoided commenting on this as I believed we had agreed that this forum would stay away from politics. However I can't read what the Fresh Prince and others say without saying that Brussels has for several months been trying to impose tariffs on dumped Chinese steel imported into the EU. It's Britain that has used its veto to block. I expect it has something to do with keeping said Chinese sweet so they finance a nuclear power station.
I'll pop off and weave some yoghurt now. Smile

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Posted: 02/04/2016 08:43:31
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It is the same old story, every time an industry reaches the end of it's life.
However, when one industry goes, another can replace it. For the better.

I'd rather be working in high-tech engineering than walking behind a horse.

Chris.
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Posted: 02/04/2016 09:51:58
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A few rather intemperate comments about the EU does little or nothing to help people who may find their futures less certain.

On a purely personal level of experience of the EU (EEC as it was at the time) I managed (by luck than anything resembling knowledge) to get enough ESCC employment funding to keep Beckermet open for an additional 6 months in 1974, not much, but they did and do provide a lot of regional funding. I would point out much has now to be matched funding which some UK governments have been reluctant to apply for, as appears to be the case with emergency flood aid.

So I would suggest those who rail against the EU and/or think it will be sun-lit uplands only if the UK (or maybe UKr) set off on their own do at least find out what they are actually against firstSmile
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Posted: 02/04/2016 10:10:10
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Many years ago I worked at a company that made the green string for dentists' drills. I remember the early days, when the gate was picketed by peddlers and quacks from the local fair, who were furious that a way had been found to fill teeth, rather than pull them out. Of course, the green string business is now long-gone. I believe that the building is still accessible; folk explore it and take pictures.
We tried picketing the turbine air drill maker, to no avail, as it turned out that patients preferred the new technology. Truth be told, so did I. Turns out that the choices they and I made had an effect. And the same is true here. We've all been happy to have cheaper shizzle. Let's not be surprised that the genie we've helped to create and which we've encouraged by spending our money, is now out of the bottle. Painting a picture of some EU-bogeyman (and I'm with Tamarmole, unbelievably crass IMHO) ignores our complicity. End of rant. Let's get back to mining or metallurgy at least. He said. Smile
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Posted: 02/04/2016 11:00:37
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somersetminer wrote:

Tamarmole wrote:

exspelio wrote:

The Fresh Prince of Portreath wrote:

Should I find myself at the end of my life from a health point of view, whilst in full operation, I will stroll into Brussels EU HQ with a shopping trolley full of explosives, shout Alan's Snackbar and blow the bastards up.

It won't make any difference, but I will get sent to hell in style.


If we get together, we could push a bigger trolley ?.


Given recent events this is crass beyond belief.


Crass it may be, however unlike recent events, we are not talking about innocents here, we are talking about people who, mostly with little knowledge of or connection to this country, have nonetheless conspired to crush the economic life out of various parts of it. I find that offensive, and
if you dont............well you damn well should!


You seem to have missed the point by a country mile.

I couldn't give a s*** about people's politics, we are all entitled to our own views - personally I think Cameron and his lackeys should be strung up by the balls for what they are doing to this country. That is neither here nor there. AN is not the right place to be waving flags of whatever colour.

What F**ks me off is people making jokes about bombing Belgium. That is crass. The people who died (big word - think about it) in the recent bombings were innocent people who were murdered(another big word) to satisfy some tossers ego trip. Any one who makes jokes about this sort of thing is behaving like a t**t.
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Posted: 02/04/2016 11:01:27
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Yes, it's that Roy Batcooker bloke that has caused all this.
Buying all those cheap Chinese lamp parts!Laugh
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Posted: 02/04/2016 13:48:08
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But steel isn't an old technology that has been superseded. The modern world is built on steel, concrete and oil. It may be uneconomical to produce in the UK, but that's a different issue.

You could just as easily say that Trident is an obsolete technology, but the government are happy to mould the 'facts' to fit their world view on that issue.
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Posted: 02/04/2016 13:56:08
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BertyBasset wrote:

But steel isn't an old technology that has been superseded. The modern world is built on steel, concrete and oil. It may be uneconomical to produce in the UK, but that's a different issue.

You could just as easily say that Trident is an obsolete technology, but the government are happy to mould the 'facts' to fit their world view on that issue.


I know. It was a poor analogy. Just attempting to inject a bit of humour into the rancour. I'm tempted to say "don't get me started on Trident", but am afraid that doing so might act in the fashion of Steve Irwin's stick with some of our members and we've had quite enough of that for one morning. Shocked
Anyway, off out now to look at sough outfalls.
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Posted: 02/04/2016 14:22:32
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Soughs. Good plan. I might have a peep at the Mochdre adit.

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