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Posted: 05/10/2015 08:08:12
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Been again today Sunday 4th Oct.

Just inside the entrance there is a bad roof condition, looks about ready to drop. Best solution would be a stick of bang to bring it down but cant do that.
Next thought was proping but hammering the prop in could bring something down on me. Finally, dept of easy solutions, a roll of PVC coated fencing wire, make a 'cordon' round the area and post some warning notices. Hopefully peoples sense of self preservation will prevail. Its an area as well where people gather, typically wife's and girlfriends waiting for their menfolk to return from a bit of exploring.



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Right funny game though putting 10mm bolts in. Over on the right of the pic you may see a couple, to seat to full length the rock was impossible! DeWalt 24V with a heavy duty battery just about got 4 in for half of their 80mm length!
Yet over at the back it was like drilling butter with bits dropping of the wall.
In mid Wales the battery does about 9 in mudstone to full depth.



Is there no way you can bar this section of roof down with a long pinch bar?
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Posted: 05/10/2015 08:40:20
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Tamarmole wrote:

royfellows wrote:

Been again today Sunday 4th Oct.

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Next thought was proping but hammering the prop in could bring something down on me.
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Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin

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Posted: 05/10/2015 09:25:58
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[quoteHere is a bit of a mystery
There is the remains of a line of trucks in the river, no no sign at all of chassis, axles, or bogies.

I wonder is the rolling chassis were put to some other use?

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I do vaguely remember from many years ago that the sink to Will's Hole had been dammed up using tram bodies in the dam, only reason for this I can think of is to stop the track to the top of the ramp being washed away in flood. Could this be the ones you are thinking of?
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Posted: 05/10/2015 10:23:36
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Is there no way you can bar this section of roof down with a long pinch bar?


NO
I would advise in the strongest possible terms against anyone doing anything like this. Its not like the shale in Caplecleugh. This stuff is quite heavy and likely to cause fragmentation.

Your talking a vertical drop of about 8 feet. It could fly everywhere.

I did consider this using a length of rail, enough stuff in there lying about, but realised this possibility.

I could be wrong on this but is it worth taking chances.

There is also possibility of something still hanging being missed.



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Ali, yes you are correct. The trucks are gradually falling to bits though now and the bank is well gone.



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Later I want to open a new thread as this one has run its course re the topic heading.
I have volunteers registering to offer help and support there and also contacts from NRW etc. I want to keep everyone in on the loop and have some ideas to moot

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Posted: 05/10/2015 12:20:09
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By way, another mystery solved.

Exploring for the first time last week, big question "Where did all the bricks and rubble come from just inside"

Obvious answer to my own question is that when they cleared the site they dumped the rubble from the demolition of the mine building into the mine before stripping the rails out. The two trucks just inside where maybe the ones used, tipped onto their sides off the rails to get the rails out. One looks as though its has a piece cut out with oxy acetylene, another mystery!

So how did they get the loco's down the ramp if it had been boarded for use as a walkway

Oh for some old photos, they has to be some considering it was working up to 1964

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Posted: 05/10/2015 14:34:18
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So how did they get the loco's down the ramp if it had been boarded for use as a walkway


As the tramway through the tunnel preceded the ropeway I would think any loco would be driven to the lower level via that route?

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Posted: 05/10/2015 16:17:32
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Except there is a huge drop from the other end of the tunnel down to the lower tramway!

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Posted: 05/10/2015 16:34:49
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Except there is a huge drop from the other end of the tunnel down to the lower tramway!


I tend to agree and also suspect that the route down through the tunnel was a winch system, any loco's being used for the flat section?

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Posted: 05/10/2015 16:39:10
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I was thinking about this.

As there was a winch somewhere above the ramp, and the ramp drops in a straight line, they could have been lowered down carefully to a waiting low loader even without rails in situ.
As I have commented before, there is a lot of room to turn a reasonable size lorry down at where the bridge across to Bwamaen was situated, and they could have then reversed backwards to the ramp. I confirmed this yesterday.

Saw no cavers all day, the mine had a quiet day except for me.

Yes and I climbed up the rocks at the site of the ramp to get to the mine, not too difficult.

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Posted: 05/10/2015 16:58:20
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I've had a feeling for some time that the steep path to the north of Dinas Rock was much too well engineered to be 'just a path', seems the answer may have been lurking in my PC for a while!



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Posted: 05/10/2015 18:33:17
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I tell you what, the area draws me back!

I will have to get Talybont finished though as there is work at Cwmystwyth. I do take a lot on!
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Posted: 05/10/2015 18:42:17
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I tell you what, the area draws me back!


It's been drawing me back for the last 48 years!Big Grin

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Posted: 05/10/2015 18:46:15
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Much of a journey for you?

My first visit I missed the damned M50 off the M5, its right on top of Strensham Services, and had to take the M4 and pay Severn Bridge toll fee.

Is it getting old?

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Posted: 05/10/2015 19:01:21
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About 10 miles as the crow flies but 24 miles over two mountain roads.

I've been known to miss the M50 even though I travel it frequently!

Severn toll is a rip-off.Cursing

Edit: If you miss the M50 again pull off at J9 and drive back to J8.

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Posted: 05/10/2015 19:02:34
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Obvious answer to my own question is that when they cleared the site they dumped the rubble from the demolition of the mine building into the mine before stripping the rails out. The two trucks just inside where maybe the ones used, tipped onto their sides off the rails to get the rails out. One looks as though its has a piece cut out with oxy acetylene, another mystery!

If the cut out piece is in the end,you have answered your own query.
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Posted: 05/10/2015 19:43:26
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About 10 miles as the crow flies but 24 miles over two mountain roads.

I've been known to miss the M50 even though I travel it frequently!

Severn toll is a rip-off.Cursing

Edit: If you miss the M50 again pull off at J9 and drive back to J8.


Early morning the sun is in your eyes and you don't see the turn off sign, found this out yesterday.

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Posted: 05/10/2015 19:45:50
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Ty Gwyn wrote:

Obvious answer to my own question is that when they cleared the site they dumped the rubble from the demolition of the mine building into the mine before stripping the rails out. The two trucks just inside where maybe the ones used, tipped onto their sides off the rails to get the rails out. One looks as though its has a piece cut out with oxy acetylene, another mystery!

If the cut out piece is in the end,you have answered your own query.




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Posted: 05/10/2015 20:17:42
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Posted: 05/10/2015 20:56:01
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I thought I recognised the name of this mine. They wanted to give me the mineral rights to it at one point but it sounded like a right hornets nest from the few enquiries I made.

Must admit I never pursued it, but well done Roy for taking it on. I hope the place thrives under your stewardship, and I've no doubt that it will.
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Posted: 05/10/2015 22:27:41
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Ty Gwyn wrote:

Got me stumped there Roy.


Yes, sorry I had to go to aikido so left my computer in a hurry and no time to post a proper answer. The hole was cut I am sure as I could see what definitely looks like a metal run from the torch.
I wonder if it was something to do with the dumping of the rubble, the trucks are side tippers.

Miles, there has been a lot of aggro there from a local farmer, but nought to do with me or NAL.

Hope you keeping well.

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