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Posted: 24/05/2015 10:00:16
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I just found this by chance , it might have been on here before but for those who haven't seen it , it is a fascinating yet very sad record of every detail of each and every miner killed in England's worst ever mining disaster
The publishers say it can not be copied for commercial use and is only for public and private use , so I guess its OK

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Westhoughton/Pretoria/Indv_Pretoria.html
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Posted: 25/05/2015 10:04:07
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Thanks for adding that. That particular disaster always fascinated me.

Makes for predictably sad and rather grim reading. Especially the entries like the young lad that has his head blown off, chest burst open and disembowelled. How horrible for his mum to have to identify a corpse like that Sad

Despite the horrific violence of the explosion, it shows that the cause of death for the great majority of the victims was CO poisoning rather than injury. Shows how important self-rescuers are, though they didn't come into service for decades after Pretoria. Mind you, the SR doesn't give you long, especially the chemical scrubber ones. Perhaps enough to get to a refuse station though, if your pit has them...
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Posted: 25/05/2015 12:09:49
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RAMPAGE wrote:



Makes for predictably sad and rather grim reading....



And little bits of social history noted....the description of one of the unknown victims mentioned that his clogs were holed and repaired and had insoles made from Quaker Oats boxes.... fourteen years old FFS. Sad

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Posted: 25/05/2015 18:44:49
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Yes really sad and yet really detailed and interesting right down to the next of kin wages ,before and after (compensation) etc
Even their addresses and Tally numbers , a remarkable and detailed piece of history , that I thought needed to be shared
Haven't read them all yet , but I will
I did hear that in Checkerbent village , there was one street where every male that lived in it was killed

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Posted: 25/05/2015 20:05:38
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Aditaddict wrote:

Yes really sad and yet really detailed and interesting right down to the next of kin wages ,before and after (compensation) etc
Even their addresses and Tally numbers , a remarkable and detailed piece of history , that I thought needed to be shared
Haven't read them all yet , but I will
I did hear that in Checkerbent village , there was one street where every male that lived in it was killed



Yes, you are quite right - Brancker Street, Chequerbent, Westhoughton.

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Posted: 25/05/2015 20:51:17
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I know his is the last one on the list , I was going to use it as an example
Then I saw this one

GREEN William
Age 13. 6 Bowden Street, Deane, Bolton. Lasher-on.
Born in Bolton birth registered Bolton 2nd Q 1897.Baptised 19 May 1897 at Bolton St Peter.
Recovery No.4. Body position 3. Tally 855.
Recovered 21 Dec 1910 from Yard Pit Shaft Area: back of No.3 pit around shafts. Identified by William Green (father) from his belt (newspaper report). Property: Nil (father took jacket brought it back - not his property).
Cause of death: (Violence.) Explosion.
Coroner's Inquest: BEN (23 Dec 1910) report of the inquest recorded that his father said "the boy had never made any complaint".
Buried: 24 Dec 1910 Tonge Cemetery, Bolton, Grave 3/I1/53 Church Ground. MI
Death registration: BRO 1911 HOR/32/476. GRO 1911 1st Quarter Bolton 8c 262.
Family at home: Parents William Henry 42 and Henrietta 50; Siblings Alice 15, Hetty 10, Alfred 8, Frank 6.
HCF Dependants: Henrietta Green.
Compensation: LCM £15. HCF 5s./w. WCA £75 as lump sum paid out of court.
Income: Before 8s.6d. After 5s.
Notes: Member of L&CMPRS. L&CMPRS 1911 recorded "Father a policeman in Bolton Force. The home was very poor and untidy."
Variants: Age 14 (G, LCM). Occupation Haulage Hand (PB).
Photograph: Date unknown. Supplied by a family member.
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Posted: 24/06/2015 21:33:03
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There was a book called dark days brought out in the 70s and it was interviews with old colliers from all over lancs. There was quite a lot on pretoria in that inc some from families of the victims. If you can get hold of it its a fascinating book. IP: 86.142.181.237
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Posted: 24/06/2015 21:54:13
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Thanks i'll look out for it IP: 86.22.238.71
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Posted: 05/10/2015 08:42:36
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Got as far as Bennett on the list and 4 brothers all identified by their father. How very very sad. IP: 62.200.55.38
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