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Posted: 17/09/2014 22:23:41
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Hi all
I was walking along the lane from Penrhyndeudraeth to Rhiwgoch farm a few days ago, and came across a few adits. At SH62044013 were two adits, one was only a few feet long and displayed a large quartz vein. The other had a winze sunk just inside the portal, and was a flooded private water supply. Are these the easternmost Pantywrach workings, and does anyone know where the flooded winze adit goes? I believe D. Bick in his Mines of Snowdonia says that this adit was cut before the days of gunpowder.
Further along the lane, directly behind the outbuildings of Rhiwgoch farm, was another adit at SH62254039. Is this by any chance a Deep Adit for Rhiwgoch mine, located on the hillside above? It was walled up, and also a water supply.
Any information on these workings would be great - this just isn't my patch!Big Grin
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Posted: 17/09/2014 22:50:09
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Rheidol United wrote:

Hi all
I was walking along the lane from Penrhyndeudraeth to Rhiwgoch farm a few days ago, and came across a few adits. At SH62044013 were two adits, one was only a few feet long and displayed a large quartz vein. The other had a winze sunk just inside the portal, and was a flooded private water supply. Are these the easternmost Pantywrach workings, and does anyone know where the flooded winze adit goes?


Sorry Ioan, your wrong about the winze, the level is just very wet. We think it was an adit into Pantywrach but unsure. It is very wet and leads only to a collapse.

Rheidol United wrote:


Further along the lane, directly behind the outbuildings of Rhiwgoch farm, was another adit at SH62254039. Is this by any chance a Deep Adit for Rhiwgoch mine, located on the hillside above? It was walled up, and also a water supply.
Any information on these workings would be great - this just isn't my patch!Big Grin
Ioan


This was drained and explored by a gentleman from Portmadog a few years ago. Its not an adit but mearly a trial level.

Pantywrach shallow adit at SH 616 401 in the lane the other side of the hill just above a parking area, dug open by me a few years ago.
Deep adit now partially blocked by fallen tree is at about SH 621 404 as near as I can judge guessing through trees. This is also blocked but some distance in. Some people from Portmadog tried digging the fall some years ago but had to give up.

There is some interesting stuff in that area, you can probably learn about it all on this website.

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Posted: 18/09/2014 00:50:33
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A couple of rough surveys I did from what would appear to be 18 years ago..

http://www.aditnow.co.uk/documents/Pantywrach-Copper-Mine/PantYWrachDeep.pdf
http://www.aditnow.co.uk/documents/Pantywrach-Copper-Mine/PantYWrachSurvey.pdf
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Posted: 18/09/2014 00:53:58
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+ the intriguing bit from D Bick's book about miners exiting by the 'backdoor' to Penrhyn. IP: 86.190.190.212
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Posted: 18/09/2014 20:17:43
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Thanks for the info - yes I have a lot to learn about those mines! I also went to Bwlchyplwm and Catherine & Jane - some interesting adits at C&J, and spectacular views and open-casts at Bwlchyplwm. A plan of C&J Deep Adit on the website shows a 'rise to Smithy Level'. Is that the name of an adit? If so, where is the portal to the Smithy Level?
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Posted: 18/09/2014 22:25:35
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Rheidol United wrote:

Thanks for the info - yes I have a lot to learn about those mines! I also went to Bwlchyplwm and Catherine & Jane - some interesting adits at C&J, and spectacular views and open-casts at Bwlchyplwm. A plan of C&J Deep Adit on the website shows a 'rise to Smithy Level'. Is that the name of an adit? If so, where is the portal to the Smithy Level?


If I say behind the Smithy you may think I am taking the pee. C and J has three adits, top, middle, which is Smithy level, and Deep which is the gunge dive. Best route into deep is by the 50 foot footwall winze down from Smithy level. You are in clean water until you meet the crosscut and then back through clean water washes you off, well sort of.
Big Grin

Another piece of info is the mother of all tight sqeezes through dubious fall material to get to Ross's Engine Shaft from Smithy Level. I did it in the 1990s and promised God that I would never do it again, and actually kept my promise on this one.
Popular route is SRT down R.E.S. from upper adit, worth doing as there the remains of an angle bob.

Another little mine worth a look, and I dont know its name, maybe part of C and J is left at the cross roads. So down the path with Smithy on the left and heading towards the wheel pit, you come to a sort of crossroads, turn left as though going towards Rhyd and the mine is on the left. Squeeze into a dry adit breaks into a stope with a possible pumping shaft coming down through it and an iron pump rod lying about. I think someone has use it as a belay.

Further towards Rhyd and on the right of the valley facing that direction is Hafod Boeth Mine.

Now if you take the path to C and J but stay on it instead of turning right down past the Smithy, keep going until you reach a stile, go over and follow the forest fence to a point where you can climb over. There is another mine there in the trees. I think 632 414 ish

A lot in the area, yes.

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Posted: 19/09/2014 17:20:00
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Ah thanks - in that case I went into the Smithy Level. It was the one which had that winze down to the Deep Adit, and the flat-rod dolly wheel at the collar. I also did Hafod Boeth Middle and Deep adits - some nice artefacts in there. We were very short on time, and after a few minutes of walking along the Deep Adit we decided that we'd have to turn back and return some other time to see where it went. It just seemed to meander about and never end - do you know where the Hafod Boeth Deep Adit leads?
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Posted: 19/09/2014 17:27:53
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Yes, in a fall. This comes down from the winze/understope at the end of the upper adit. I dropped this on SRT once, horrifically dangerous hanging deads, and no way into the DA at the bottom. Shortly afterwards the Portmadog lads reopened the DA portal.

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