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Posted: 04/09/2014 14:14:43
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For completeness, there is my interpretation of the 1880 map, as applied to that photo, based on the HB plans.
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Posted: 04/09/2014 15:57:47
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Thanks for this.

Have you turned up anything in your surface mooching?

There is a 'feature' along side the main road at the bottom of Godrevey Terrace, not the one in St Ives itself but near Carbis Water. I always wondered if it could be the blocked off upper adit?
I have probably brought this up before.
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Posted: 30/09/2014 11:59:48
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Well we had the property drilled following the advice given By Stuart Dann. This was carried out by the Estate Agent appointed West Country Mines.

WCM found voids at 12 metres below the foundations, deep within the backfilled material running all along the red lode.

Probably unrecorded shallow workings before the shafts were sunk WCM informed us.

The voids were right below the full length of the actual property. Needless to say, we walked away, so even though the drill survey cost us nearly £3000, it was money well spent.

With report in hand, we made enquiries to 3 major building societies, and non would lend on the property without major further investigations being carried out. What that meant I shudder to think! Demolition maybe?

What really annoyed me was the fact that the Estate Agents selling the property sold the house right next door only a few months ago, and that had exactly the same problems. It too was over the same lode..... 20 metres away from the Main Engine House/shaft. (Higgs)

We found out that the previous owner had to spend £50,000 to fill voids below ground to satisfy the lenders of the new purchaser. Those voids were only 1 meter below ground, the new owner told me.

If only the Estate Agents had told us that before we went to the trouble of commissioning drilling, we could have saved a lot of time and money.

My solicitor suggests that I sue via the Ombudsman for withholding information.

Sad fact is... the property we walked away from is back on the market now. I just hope the next potential buyer has done their homework, or has signed up to this amazing forum for advice!

PS: Thanks again Stuart for all your help! Thumbs Up
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Posted: 30/09/2014 12:37:20
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Good to hear, better to be safe than sorry and as always excellent advice and details from Stu, if you would like i would be more than happy to host details of the survey on the CBC site to alert anyone searching on the property of the issues until, seems the current owners are probably trying to pass the property on to unsuspecting people as the would have know about the previous works

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Posted: 30/09/2014 12:46:13
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I would be happy to pass the details of the report on, but I am not sure if I would be getting into trouble by doing that!

I agree that people need to know about this as it's obvious the estate agents are not going to tell them!
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Posted: 30/09/2014 16:07:02
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andy308 wrote:

I would be happy to pass the details of the report on, but I am not sure if I would be getting into trouble by doing that!

I agree that people need to know about this as it's obvious the estate agents are not going to tell them!


Yes, I think you would be getting into trouble passing on your report. You need to check your contract with the SI company.

Usually there is something to say the information is for your use only.

I won't comment on Estate Agents, but always remember they are working for the vendor, not you.
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Posted: 30/09/2014 17:42:43
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Seems that some Estate Agents are not bothered about what they have on their books, as long as they get their commission.

I think they should disclose the drilling report to anyone intent on purchasing the property to save them wasting time.

It's only going to crop up on searches etc.


IP: 185.34.82.145 Edited: 01/10/2014 08:40:44 by andy308
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Posted: 01/10/2014 16:46:43
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andy308 wrote:

...I think they should disclose the drilling report to anyone intent on purchasing the property to save them wasting time....


If you were buying a property would you trust a report commissioned and paid for by somebody else?
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Posted: 01/10/2014 17:00:04
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Trewillan wrote:

andy308 wrote:

...I think they should disclose the drilling report to anyone intent on purchasing the property to save them wasting time....


If you were buying a property would you trust a report commissioned and paid for by somebody else?


If its done by a professional company then yes, especially if it notes there is a void under the property, wont look good if the house starts to move a year later and the estate agent "forgot" to mention it


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Posted: 01/10/2014 18:59:51
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Yes because West Country Mines are a reputable company run by a team of accredited engineers. IP: 77.98.2.143
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Posted: 02/10/2014 05:10:03
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If I were buying a house, then the fact of a report of that nature, from a source of that sort, would be enough. What it actually contained would be a secondary issue. A refusal from a mortgage lender is all you need to know.


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