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Posted: 03/05/2013 19:40:49
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We have become lazy and we take the easy option every time regardless of its overall merit.


Laziness was well entrenched when I started work 1963, nothing new there!


I think it may be a different type of laziness today, though. To be sure of that though you would have to describe what you mean about the laziness back then. What was it like?


During my apprenticeship at a foundry/general engineering company it was noticeable that the one German, and several Polish WW2 associated immigrants had a superior, (above site average) work ethic.
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Posted: 03/05/2013 19:53:46
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Hi Morlock,

I like to be cracking on too. Life gets boring otherwise. No, I was referring to intellectual laziness. This is when people read the tabloids (many millions do) and parrot everything said within them, without due questioning as to the possible motives of the Murdochians who are pumping out the stuff. People could learn about what goes into computers, iPads etc and where it comes from; they could learn about what makes Earth's climate tick (all factors) and so on, but they just keep taking those Tabloids and blithely consuming, consuming, without as much as a thought. Until this is sorted UK industry is screwed. People want to consume like *** and yet have a nice view at all times. People are walking paradoxes....
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Posted: 03/05/2013 20:12:46
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Ahh, I see. I would say that people of all walks of life spent considerably more time questioning the 'why's and what if's' of politics years ago.
One only has to look at any Welsh mining valley to see remnants of a more politically active and free thinking era, Political Clubs from right and left with the almost obligatory 'Non-Pol' for the real out of the box type thinkers.
Add to this the various other institutions and it would be fair to say that people were not politically lazy in those times but, the were still the 'sheeple', as always.

Edit: Almost forgot to mention that easy (or risky) credit did not exist in those day's so consumerism had not advanced to it's current unsustainable state.
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Posted: 03/05/2013 21:12:42
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.........This is when people read the tabloids (many millions do) and parrot everything said within them, ....


What about television John. Left on all day even if no one watching it, bigger and bigger screens so they take up half the wall, and what do they pump out.....SH1T

My last TV went into a skip

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Posted: 04/05/2013 00:38:39
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John Mason wrote:

Morlock wrote:

John Mason wrote:


We have become lazy and we take the easy option every time regardless of its overall merit.


Laziness was well entrenched when I started work 1963, nothing new there!


I think it may be a different type of laziness today, though. To be sure of that though you would have to describe what you mean about the laziness back then. What was it like?


Sounds more like apathy today rather than laziness.


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Posted: 04/05/2013 06:54:49
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royfellows wrote:

John Mason wrote:



.........This is when people read the tabloids (many millions do) and parrot everything said within them, ....


What about television John. Left on all day even if no one watching it, bigger and bigger screens so they take up half the wall, and what do they pump out.....SH1T

My last TV went into a skip


Absolutely, Roy - and yes you did the best thing there! Haven't had a telly since the early 1990s.
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Posted: 04/05/2013 07:08:42
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John Mason wrote:

royfellows wrote:

John Mason wrote:



.........This is when people read the tabloids (many millions do) and parrot everything said within them, ....


What about television John. Left on all day even if no one watching it, bigger and bigger screens so they take up half the wall, and what do they pump out.....SH1T

My last TV went into a skip


Absolutely, Roy - and yes you did the best thing there! Haven't had a telly since the early 1990s.


Most don't even go as far as apathy, they have no idea. Most would not think to question nothing unless it impacts them right then and there.

Telly is rubbish. I have one, but until the missus moved in, I didn't for 7 years, and didn't miss the thing. I still don't watch it now, Youtube has my scrapheap challenge and I can get Top gear and Dr Who online as well. Most of my colleagues think I'm crazy, as do most people in my age range (mid 30's).

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Posted: 04/05/2013 11:08:34
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I know it's exceedingly poor form to mention politics on a public forum, but I am most certainly glad Farage has landed a big, square running kick on the face of the political class.

Let's hope we see a big return of sense into the running of the country, rather than the irrelevant fiddling and main issue avoidance of the main tie colours who appear to stand for more fiddling, irrelevance and nest-feathering....shoot them all

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Posted: 04/05/2013 14:02:03
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stuey wrote:

I know it's exceedingly poor form to mention politics on a public forum, but I am most certainly glad Farage has landed a big, square running kick on the face of the political class.

Let's hope we see a big return of sense into the running of the country, rather than the irrelevant fiddling and main issue avoidance of the main tie colours who appear to stand for more fiddling, irrelevance and nest-feathering....shoot them all

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Well said! Agree entirely. It's high time the speeding Gravy Train met Dr Nobel's chemical diverter! Shocked

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Posted: 04/05/2013 14:13:29
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I know it's exceedingly poor form to mention politics on a public forum, but I am most certainly glad Farage has landed a big, square running kick on the face of the political class.


Mr Farage has certainly given the chattering classes something worth gibbering about. Big Grin Political realities and the inevitable 'system' inertia may well moderate some UKIP policies.
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Posted: 04/05/2013 14:14:44
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It will all end up being the same old crap, if the said outfit turn the present lot reactionary then god help us.

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Posted: 04/05/2013 14:41:51
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stuey wrote:

I know it's exceedingly poor form to mention politics on a public forum, but I am most certainly glad Farage has landed a big, square running kick on the face of the political class.


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Yes, it's good that UKIP's victories yesterday will hopefully go some way towards kicking the other parties into touch, but god help us if they replicate the same level of success in 2015!!!
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Posted: 04/05/2013 17:30:28
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It's not about socialism vs capitalism anymore. The red/blue/yellow ties are all in the middle. It's the up-down axis which is of concern. Less government vs More government. They are all fans of hugely expensive and legislative "more government" including it's undemocratic and parasitic totalitarian monster, the EUSSR.

Looking at the long picture, since rising energy, population and less jobs/growth will mean that the state in it's current form will reach a T junction in due course....we heard Mandelson mention the term "post-democratic era". This predicament is not so much about stimulus to "get back to growth" it's about how they (the political class) can manage the transition to the post-democratic era (so they can nanny everyone, feather their own nests and strut around the world stage) rather than all being out on their ears due to the lack of money and finance available to facilitate the whole thing.

It really is continuing unhindered (the progress to a supranational undemocratic totalitarian state) with the main parties only differing in which trivia they fiddle with. Along come UKIP and have said they will back nanny state off, get off people's backs and get out of the EUSSR. This is a good thing, however, I think it is actually impossible.

There are a number of factors which will make things interesting. 1. What happens in the Scottish Independence vote. If we lose Scotland, the Tories will be firmly in. 2. 2015 Labour victory....UKIP are unlikely to pull the cat out of the bag.... people need to vote for the blue ties, otherwise the red ties will get in with the yellow ties (and do exactly the same thing).....So, Ed Milliband walks into no 10 and Balls in No 11 decides to have a massive stimulus. At a point afterwards when it appears to have not worked (created growth) the money markets will hand our arses to us on a plate.

Probably a good time to join the Euro then and share all the misery out equally.....apart from the Political class, who will have made a large amount of hay in the meantime.

My money is firmly on Labour and then the EU (united states of Europe) shortly after. I'd love UKIP to pull us back to a innovative, free island where sensible economic/energy policies rule and we are profitable and enjoy a good quality of life......Sadly, the EU lot need our money so they can spread it out more equally in order to facilitate the greater good in the post-growth economic era.....Meanwhile the charities, 3rd sector, NGO's headed by glazed eyed-useful idiots are merely helping those who are in power facilitate their version of events. (Technocratic government headed by people who deserve more power and money)

That's what I think.
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Posted: 04/05/2013 18:24:25
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With you on that one Stuey, a benevolent dictator is what we want!!! Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Posted: 04/05/2013 18:25:09
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Perhaps IF I vote ukip they'll get rid of the surfers and get this thread back on topic Shocked

Perhaps a new party is required miners against surfers, numbys etc Guns

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Posted: 04/05/2013 18:26:26
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Mr Garage has the gift of the gab and that's about it, the rest is just smoke and mirrors.
Pulling out of Europe..he's all blag, he knows he can't.
I'll bet that nearer the time his present ideas will be somewhat watered down, even more so than he did in preparation for the elections just gone, if he ever gets in then you will find stronger policies in a cup o' tea.

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Posted: 04/05/2013 19:26:02
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Anybody been down any good mines recently? Wink IP: 93.186.31.96
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Posted: 04/05/2013 19:50:42
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Yep, 4 new ones last week. People get upset if you talk about it on the internet. Besides, politics is very interesting. I think we in what will be a very interesting part of history. People will paw over every last word and action of all of this.

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Posted: 04/05/2013 19:50:58
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SimonRL wrote:

Anybody been down any good mines recently? Wink


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Posted: 05/05/2013 08:40:41
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SimonRL wrote:

Anybody been down any good mines recently? Wink


Yes actually. A guy stopped us and asked what we were doing and told us we shouldn't be srting that shaft. We told him we were engineers checking the structural integrity of the collar and off he went on his merry way Laugh

(Our old overalls come from an engineering company, so have **** engineering services written all over them lol!)

And some stuff we can't really talk about :p hah!
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