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derrickman Joined: 18/02/2009 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 07/12/2012 16:22:14 Reply \| Quote http://www.bristol.ac.uk/centenary/look/cabinet/helmet.html http://www.shurdington.org/gharmirdum/Photos/HelmetLamp.jpg .. especially the chinstrap on the first one! -- ''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that. IP: 85.132.15.32
Pinzgauer Joined: 11/12/2005 Location: North Britain. View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 07/12/2012 17:39:45 Reply \| Quote Ahh... the joys of a mushy and a Premier. Happy days !! -- Who put the overall's in Mrs Murphy's Chowdah ?? IP: 79.78.95.157
Trewillan Joined: 21/02/2012 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 07/12/2012 18:33:33 Reply \| Quote derrickman wrote: http://www.bristol.ac.uk/centenary/look/cabinet/helmet.html http://www.shurdington.org/gharmirdum/Photos/HelmetLamp.jpg .. especially the chinstrap on the first one! Slightly more comfortable than baler twine! Don't believe the lamp cost 3 pence if the helmet was 3 shillings. Perhaps they mean the lamp bracket cost 3d over the price of the plain helmet. And they can't spell Acetylene. IP: 87.112.244.80
Morlock Joined: 31/07/2008 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 07/12/2012 19:47:30 Reply \| Quote Trewillan wrote: derrickman wrote: http://www.bristol.ac.uk/centenary/look/cabinet/helmet.html http://www.shurdington.org/gharmirdum/Photos/HelmetLamp.jpg .. especially the chinstrap on the first one! Slightly more comfortable than baler twine! Don't believe the lamp cost 3 pence if the helmet was 3 shillings. Perhaps they mean the lamp bracket cost 3d over the price of the plain helmet. And they can't spell Acetylene. Premier was 19/6d in Joseph Bryants (Bristol) around 1962. Came with spring clip for fibre helmet, seem to remember also had hook clip. IP: 82.26.90.225
somersetminer Joined: 19/05/2012 Location: Bristol View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 07/12/2012 20:23:41 Reply \| Quote Morlock wrote: Trewillan wrote: derrickman wrote: http://www.bristol.ac.uk/centenary/look/cabinet/helmet.html http://www.shurdington.org/gharmirdum/Photos/HelmetLamp.jpg .. especially the chinstrap on the first one! Slightly more comfortable than baler twine! Don't believe the lamp cost 3 pence if the helmet was 3 shillings. Perhaps they mean the lamp bracket cost 3d over the price of the plain helmet. And they can't spell Acetylene. Premier was 19/6d in Joseph Bryants (Bristol) around 1962. Came with spring clip for fibre helmet, seem to remember also had hook clip. possible they're wrong about the helmet as well, looks like a Huwood to me IP: 2.102.142.85
Trewillan Joined: 21/02/2012 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 07/12/2012 23:37:40 Reply \| Quote somersetminer wrote: Premier was 19/6d in Joseph Bryants (Bristol) around 1962. possible they're wrong about the helmet as well, looks like a Huwood to me 19/6d sounds more like it. What are the detail differences that make you think its a Huwood helmet rather than a Protector? IP: 87.112.244.80
derrickman Joined: 18/02/2009 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 08/12/2012 04:50:28 Reply \| Quote must admit that I never learnt to tell the difference between the various fibre hard hats. The club I then belonged to ( 4C's in Cambridge ) had a sack of them which had been obtained very cheaply at a street market army-surplus dealer ( the NCB was discarding them wholesale in the 60s ) and it was a matter of grabbing one that fitted! One member had a US-style Comfo-Cap ( a low-crown fibreglass unit made for American coal miners ) which was much admired. The Tex-o-Lex round-crown ones with the tiny triangular peak were also much sought after. I've never seen a hook-mount acetylene lamp outside a museum. amazing what you can find in the internet http://www.bec-cave.org.uk/index.php/publications-mainmenu-32/caving-reports-mainmenu-34/980-caving-report-5 -- ''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that. IP: 85.132.15.32 Edited: 08/12/2012 09:16:07 by derrickman
derrickman Joined: 18/02/2009 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 08/12/2012 09:21:35 Reply \| Quote I see the claim here http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=12192.0 that the Caving Supplies helmet was/is a variant of the Edelrid UltraLite - is this true? -- ''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that. IP: 85.132.15.32
Trewillan Joined: 21/02/2012 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 08/12/2012 16:38:37 Reply \| Quote derrickman wrote: I see the claim here http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=12192.0 that the Caving Supplies helmet was/is a variant of the Edelrid UltraLite - is this true? Possibly. CS helmet would just be a commercially available helmet, with lamp bracket and chinstrap added? I'm sure shells could have been ordered in quantity without the original makers name. IP: 87.112.244.80
somersetminer Joined: 19/05/2012 Location: Bristol View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 08/12/2012 18:38:03 Reply \| Quote Trewillan wrote: somersetminer wrote: Premier was 19/6d in Joseph Bryants (Bristol) around 1962. possible they're wrong about the helmet as well, looks like a Huwood to me 19/6d sounds more like it. What are the detail differences that make you think its a Huwood helmet rather than a Protector? just a guess fair enough I have not seen Protectors up close but seen quite a few Huwoods! IP: 2.102.142.85
Trewillan Joined: 21/02/2012 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 08/12/2012 19:47:13 Reply \| Quote somersetminer wrote: Trewillan wrote: somersetminer wrote: Premier was 19/6d in Joseph Bryants (Bristol) around 1962. possible they're wrong about the helmet as well, looks like a Huwood to me 19/6d sounds more like it. What are the detail differences that make you think its a Huwood helmet rather than a Protector? just a guess fair enough I have not seen Protectors up close but seen quite a few Huwoods! I'm disappointed! I thought you were going to hit me with rivet head diameters, lamp bracket corner radiuses, shades of grey, etc. IP: 87.112.244.80
somersetminer Joined: 19/05/2012 Location: Bristol View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 08/12/2012 19:54:52 Reply \| Quote Trewillan wrote: somersetminer wrote: Trewillan wrote: somersetminer wrote: Premier was 19/6d in Joseph Bryants (Bristol) around 1962. possible they're wrong about the helmet as well, looks like a Huwood to me 19/6d sounds more like it. What are the detail differences that make you think its a Huwood helmet rather than a Protector? just a guess fair enough I have not seen Protectors up close but seen quite a few Huwoods! I'm disappointed! I thought you were going to hit me with rivet head diameters, lamp bracket corner radiuses, shades of grey, etc. sorry to disappoint, ask a coal miner! the paper helmets wern't popular down here, texolex/MSA/fibre resin on the other hand... IP: 2.102.142.85
Trewillan Joined: 21/02/2012 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 09/12/2012 00:21:59 Reply \| Quote May not have been popular, but I'm sure Tyacks ironmongers had them in stock. Many years ago. IP: 87.112.244.80
AR Joined: 07/11/2007 Location: Knot far from Knotlow in the middle of the Peak District View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 09/12/2012 09:39:01 Reply \| Quote derrickman wrote: I see the claim here http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=12192.0 that the Caving Supplies helmet was/is a variant of the Edelrid UltraLite - is this true? I belive so, Phil Brown did once tell me that the shells were the same as another commercial make but he'd put his own cradles in them, couldn't remember what that other make was until I saw this..... -- I want you to kill Nicholas Parsons, and I want you to make it clean. But if you can't make it clean, make it messy. If you can't make it messy, make it noisy. And if you can't make it noisy, make it silly! IP: 217.43.190.130
derrickman Joined: 18/02/2009 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 09/12/2012 11:36:35 Reply \| Quote I have an ex-Geevor fibre helmet in my loft. photo here http://www.bbc.co.uk/nationonfilm/topics/tin-mining/background_clip_commentary.shtml of what is claimed to be Cornish miners, I see they are wearing various hard hats and a mix of electric and carbide lamps. No date or provenance given. This one http://www.bbc.co.uk/nationonfilm/topics/tin-mining/background_conditions.shtml shows miners wearing stiffened felt hats and carbide lamps, but the epaulettes on both mens' coats suggests early post-WW2 period? Painting here http://cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/2012_02_01_archive.html dated as 1939, I see both men are carrying gas mask bags - presumably WW1 surplus - and one seems to have a thermos flask. -- ''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that. IP: 85.132.15.32
Bill L Joined: 14/05/2009 Location: Pendeen,Cornwall View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 10/12/2012 20:39:23 Reply \| Quote Next time you are down in the Wild West, pop into the Radjel Inn, Pendeen - there is a hook mount lamp hanging behind the bar. I'll buy you a drink if I'm in! IP: 188.223.187.146
Roy Morton Joined: 09/10/2007 Location: Redruth Cornwall View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 11/12/2012 00:48:08 Reply \| Quote Trewillan wrote: May not have been popular, but I'm sure Tyacks ironmongers had them in stock. Many years ago. They certainly sold a particular type of bucket (click image to open full size image in new window) -- 'Bid me discourse, I will enchant thine ear' IP: 86.152.8.158
Trewillan Joined: 21/02/2012 View Profile View Posts View Personal Album View Personal Files View all Photos Send Private Message	been there, done that.. Posted: 11/12/2012 09:02:30 Reply \| Quote Roy Morton wrote: Trewillan wrote: May not have been popular, but I'm sure Tyacks ironmongers had them in stock. Many years ago. They certainly sold a particular type of bucket (click image to open full size image in new window) Only 3! I can imagine the queues on a Monday morning. IP: 31.185.187.116

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