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Topic: Barmasters map
historytrog

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 14/12/2018 09:26:12   Subject: Barmasters map
Ible has always been in Wirksworth Parish, which is why it was in Middleton-by-Wirksworth Liberty.
The placename is sometimes given as Ible Comp - I wondered if it was an abbreviation for Common
Topic: Barmasters map
historytrog

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 13/12/2018 09:38:39   Subject: Barmasters map
The “Rolst Hole” that you refer to is in fact, Rabbit Hole or Rabit Hole. The entry Book 53 p115 is a gift made in 1825 of a mine in Middleton Wood at Taintor ranging down to the bottom of the valley
Topic: Barmasters map
historytrog

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 12/12/2018 09:40:12   Subject: Barmasters map
As AR stated, the numbers indicate the Barmasters book and page. I will look this up for you and post the entry tomorrow. The name is not familiar to me. You are looking at the Ible Wood area - there
Topic: Little Pasture Mine
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 05/10/2018 09:20:50   Subject: Little Pasture Mine
Have sent Jim's details in a pm. He is always worth contacting for any area in the Derbyshire ore field.
Topic: Little Pasture Mine
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 03/10/2018 09:19:17   Subject: Little Pasture Mine
Further to my earlier posting, I would have thought that in such cases, it is worth contacting Jim Rieuwerts. He happened to phone me up last night for a long chat about mining and I mentioned this to
Topic: Little Pasture Mine
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 02/10/2018 09:36:05   Subject: Little Pasture Mine
This is not my area so I cannot be of much help. However, there was an abandonment plan deposited in the Mining Record Office in c.1861 but this, along with many other plans, has apparently been hopel
Topic: Pindale Quarry, Bradwell spar mining auction
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 12/09/2018 09:25:46   Subject: Pindale Quarry, Bradwell spar mining auction
The Derbyshire Times on 6 Sept 2018 had an advert for an auction by Bagshaws at Bakewell on 24 Sept of Pindale Quarry, Moss Rake mineral works on Bradwell Moor and mineral rights on Bradwell Moor. Cou
Topic: Jug Holes
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 25/08/2018 09:08:24   Subject: Jug Holes
Nellie Kirkham’s field notes contain a vast amount about Jug Hole, especially letters from Doug Nash recounting in great detail Op Mole's early explorations there. Particularly see Box 25 p43 onwards.
Topic: Housing developments at Wirksworth.
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 07/08/2018 09:50:57   Subject: Housing developments at Wirksworth.
In c1976, I was called in by the developers of a housing site at Steeplegrange by the old quarry. Probably some shafts on the Venture Title there but I could turn up very little from the archives and
Topic: Photographs Of Dale (Wirksworth) (Photo ref 81539) (photo)
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 15/05/2017 09:07:39   Subject: Photographs Of Dale (Wirksworth) (Photo ref 81539) (photo)
Back in the 1970s, Andy Hayes and I surveyed some of the mine workings that were accessible in the tunnel - but there was not much to see.
Topic: identity of an 18th century portrait of a gentleman holding a piece of ore standing near an escarpment
historytrog

Forum: Mining Heritage   Posted: 17/02/2017 09:46:45   Subject: identity of an 18th century portrait of a gentleman holding a piece of ore standing near an escarpment
I have emailed Greg about this query as follows:

Your query was passed on to me as the expert on mining in the Matlock area.
I concur that the portrait is almost certainly of Anthony T
Topic: Masson Quarry, Matlock
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 23/12/2016 09:28:08   Subject: Masson Quarry, Matlock
Very pleased that it has been sorted so quickly, thanks Roy. It was amazing how thoroughly a bit of vandalism like that spoilt the scenery.
Topic: Masson Quarry, Matlock
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 22/12/2016 16:57:23   Subject: Masson Quarry, Matlock
It was not on the main cliff face but on an outcrop just above it on the west side so it would be relatively easy to reach. I did not have time to go round to inspect it but from 100 yards away, it lo
Topic: Masson Quarry, Matlock
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 22/12/2016 09:34:04   Subject: Masson Quarry, Matlock
It is a fair-sized area that might require a large amount of lemonade and spitting on a scale not seen since the punk era!
Topic: Masson Quarry, Matlock
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 21/12/2016 09:28:22   Subject: Masson Quarry, Matlock
On December 20th, having a few minutes to spare when on top of Masson on my usual walk round the area, I strolled down into the top part of the quarry and was dismayed to see a large area of spray pai
Topic: 1779 Chamber (photo)
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 21/11/2016 09:47:59   Subject: 1779 Chamber (photo)
"Roger's survey" was wrong (as usual) in marking it as Dale Shaft. It was only last year that I managed to straighten out the history of this area.

Speaking of blocked passages, there is a
Topic: 1779 Chamber (photo)
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 16/11/2016 09:48:36   Subject: 1779 Chamber (photo)
It's a manky copy of our survey that you are using. I will have to amend the course of the connecting passage. Unfortunately, many things are wrong with that plan. The 1779 chamber was discovered in c
Topic: 1779 Chamber (photo)
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 15/11/2016 10:48:42   Subject: 1779 Chamber (photo)
It is fine by me to show the survey here and I am sure that Andy Hayes would not mind.

I will contact the PDMHS ed in the New Year to see if anything can be done to get the book out.
Topic: 1779 Chamber (photo)
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 15/11/2016 09:32:16   Subject: 1779 Chamber (photo)
I walked over Masson by High Loft only yesterday. What I wrote about the “1779 chamber” has been overtaken by further research. I deal with it much better in my new book. Interested to read the comme
Topic: Snitterton near Matlock
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 23/04/2016 09:29:57   Subject: Snitterton near Matlock
Sorry but I have not done much in the Snitterton area – it is outside the scope of my Matlock book. The reports of Op Mole for that area are marvellously detailed – some appear in Nellie Kirkham’s pap
Topic: fatality @ matlock bath
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 16/01/2016 09:07:22   Subject: fatality @ matlock bath
Revised yet again

"On 26 August 1976, a group of children aged eight to sixteen from Wolverhampton were taken into these workings ‘to chip rock samples’. While doing this in Chaos Cavern, a
Topic: fatality @ matlock bath
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 15/01/2016 09:26:29   Subject: fatality @ matlock bath
Thank you David for your trouble and patience in commenting on this.
I use the local library computers for internet access so I will copy this off and then revise the account to fit in with your
Topic: fatality @ matlock bath
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 14/01/2016 09:15:05   Subject: fatality @ matlock bath
As far as I am aware, Coroner’s reports from this era are not readily available. I can see no listing of them at the Derbyshire Record Office. I have gone through my files to get the Derbyshire Times
Topic: fatality @ matlock bath
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 12/01/2016 09:39:45   Subject: fatality @ matlock bath
I have received some private messages with suggestions as to alterations in the account of the 1976 accident. Not wishing to be contraversial in this matter, I now submit a revised version:

Topic: fatality @ matlock bath
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 11/01/2016 09:21:45   Subject: fatality @ matlock bath
I am trying to come up with a brief account of this traumatic accident that is both factually accurate and not offensive to anyone. I hope that this revised version is acceptable. If not, then it can
Topic: fatality @ matlock bath
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 09/01/2016 09:09:09   Subject: fatality @ matlock bath
In view of the more detailed info from Catch 22, I will again revise the account of this accident to make it clear that the rock was not dislodged by Leslie Wheeler. This well illustrates the difficul
Topic: fatality @ matlock bath
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 08/01/2016 09:40:53   Subject: fatality @ matlock bath
In the current version of my book, nearly complete, I have revised the account of Leslie Wheeler's death to incorporate the info given in this thread:
"On 26 August 1976, a rock about ten tons we
Topic: Lost mining archive - Derbyshire, Cornwall, etc
historytrog

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 11/12/2015 09:32:50   Subject: Lost mining archive - Derbyshire, Cornwall, etc
Thank you everyone for those ideas. I had wondered if the missing mss might have been deposited in some obscure corner of the PRO - there is so much unindexed stuff there.

Incidentally, the
Topic: Lost mining archive - Derbyshire, Cornwall, etc
historytrog

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 09/12/2015 09:27:56   Subject: Lost mining archive - Derbyshire, Cornwall, etc
The text that I posted was computer-scanned stuff off the internet - I corrected some of the obvious errors but no doubt many still exist.

Lynn Willies and Jim Rieuwerts said that most of t
Topic: Lost mining archive - Derbyshire, Cornwall, etc
historytrog

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 08/12/2015 09:35:20   Subject: Lost mining archive - Derbyshire, Cornwall, etc
Google Booksearch and Archive.org enable one to look through a series of books entitled the:
ANNUAL REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR-GENERAL OF THE GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF THE UNITED KINGDOM, THE MUSEUM OF PR
Topic: Sough tail @ Cromford
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 04/12/2015 09:49:47   Subject: Sough tail @ Cromford
I resurrect this thread to apologize to owd git for not answering his query correctly. It was only this week that I realized there are two separate shale-gate pumpways for Bullacetree Mine.
First
Topic: Butterley Engineering... The Scrapman Cometh
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 03/11/2015 10:28:19   Subject: Butterley Engineering... The Scrapman Cometh
I am not a coal mining type but I notice that the Derbyshire Records Office are salvaging the documents from the Butterley Company offices.
However, there are also Butterley Co documents c1900 fo
Topic: Sainsbury's Mines
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 22/10/2015 09:30:57   Subject: Sainsbury's Mines
The coffin gate along Blackstone Shaft Vein seems to have been inaccessible since before c1850 (except for its tail area, which reputedly could be entered in the 1950s). It ends in Nestus Mine on Spar
Topic: Sainsbury's Mines
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 20/10/2015 09:22:23   Subject: Sainsbury's Mines
As regards Spinney Level in the Via Gellia, we were certainly not the first in it. It had been explored regularly by spar miners before us. In fact, we were told of its existence by Cyril Maddocks who
Topic: Sainsbury's Mines
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 19/10/2015 09:34:22   Subject: Sainsbury's Mines
I have had much new information to feed into the draft over the last few months - Nellie Kirkham's stuff and also some Operation Mole reports that were very useful for Slit Rake and Bullacetree. Also
Topic: fatality @ matlock bath
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 07/08/2015 09:15:01   Subject: fatality @ matlock bath
Can anyone supply details of another accident at Upperwood. This was in 1964 when a woman named Marlyn Atkin, a potholer from Breaston in Derbyshire, suffered back injuries when she fell 40 feet down
Topic: Lead mine mystery - Wester Hall
historytrog

Forum: New recruits!   Posted: 08/04/2015 09:40:19   Subject: Lead mine mystery - Wester Hall
The chap's age was, of course, a misprint. Other accounts state that he was 30 years old.
Topic: Sainsbury's Mines
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 04/04/2015 09:19:53   Subject: Sainsbury's Mines
No problem - it makes a pleasant change for people to be interested.
Topic: Sainsbury's Mines
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 02/04/2015 10:20:29   Subject: Sainsbury's Mines
Thanks for your comments but I do have detailed maps of Bullacetree and Moletrap and more information than any other published writers.

De Loutherbourg's engraving is of Hag Mine, not Nethe
Topic: Sainsbury's Mines
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 31/03/2015 09:18:06   Subject: Sainsbury's Mines
One of the shafts that kurnul mentioned just north of the track to Willersley Cottage Farm must have been that descended by Op Mole in 1957 to get access to Bullacetree Level higher up than the blocke
Topic: Sainsbury's Mines
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 30/03/2015 09:13:26   Subject: Sainsbury's Mines
The information about these shafts looks useful. I trust you would not mind me using any details in the book, giving you acknowledgement of course. If so, perhaps you could pm me with your name if yo
Topic: Sainsbury's Mines
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 28/03/2015 09:24:52   Subject: Sainsbury's Mines
In reply to kurnal, Sougher who contributed to this thread, has since unfortunately died, a great loss of knowledge and experience.

After a great struggle, I have managed to piece together
Topic: Old shaft near Upperwood Circa 1920s (photo)
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 26/02/2015 09:12:45   Subject: Old shaft near Upperwood Circa 1920s (photo)
I was passing through Upperwood on Wednesday on my way up Masson, and to my surprise, the answer to the mystery ‘shaft’ was at once obvious. The most southwardly house in Upperwood (at the corner wher
Topic: Old shaft near Upperwood Circa 1920s (photo)
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 24/02/2015 10:24:30   Subject: Old shaft near Upperwood Circa 1920s (photo)
Very interesting. I am hoping to walk through Upperwood and Masson later this week, weather permitting, and will take a look into this.
Since we did the survey back in 1972, more information has
Topic: Slaley Sough 17/02/15
historytrog

Forum: South East England   Posted: 20/02/2015 09:27:43   Subject: Slaley Sough 17/02/15
The low squeezy bit in the floor is part of an earlier trial probably from the 1780s period. The big 1850s level had intersected an earlier shaft working near that point.

The 1850s level w
Topic: Slaley Sough 17/02/15
historytrog

Forum: South East England   Posted: 19/02/2015 09:36:27   Subject: Slaley Sough 17/02/15
I am glad to see that folks keep looking at the draughting fissure near the end of the Bonsall Leys Level. We did a bit about it on this website back in 2010 http://www.aditnow.co.uk/community/viewtop
Topic: Effect of earthquakes on mine workings
historytrog

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 17/02/2015 10:12:59   Subject: Effect of earthquakes on mine workings
The earthquake at Haycliff Mine account can be read at http://places.wishful-thinking.org.uk/DBY/Eyam/History/Leadmines.html

There were other lesser earthquake events recorded in 1683 and
Topic: Peak District Mine Shafts - Information required?
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 19/01/2015 09:27:34   Subject: Peak District Mine Shafts - Information required?
Regarding the shaft in Slaley Sough/Bonsall Leys Level described in the article that I wrote, we did not descend it. I have heard of more than one descent and all said that it was blind to water at ab
Topic: Radford Colliery Nottingham.
historytrog

Forum: New recruits!   Posted: 27/09/2014 10:07:10   Subject: Radford Colliery Nottingham.
If you live in Nottinghamshire, your local library computers will give you free access to the British Newspaper Archive. It has over 200 hits for Radford Colliery but none after 1950.
Topic: Henstock's Lead Mine
historytrog

Forum: Midlands   Posted: 28/08/2014 09:12:45   Subject: Henstock's Lead Mine
Sorry for the delay – I use the local library for internet access but all my data is at home, not the most convenient arrangement.


Henstock’s Sough in Middleton-by-Wirksworth Liberty
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