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Posts by Peter Burgess

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Topic: Engine house near The Hurlers
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 16/07/2008 00:26:21   Subject: Engine house near The Hurlers
[quote="carnkie"]I've really no idea but is it the restored engine house at the South Phoenix Mine? I'm sure i'll be put right pretty quickly. ;) :) [/quote]

Oops! My mistake - that is So
Topic: Wheal Kitty Mystery object, 1987 (photo)
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 16/07/2008 00:01:21   Subject: Wheal Kitty Mystery object, 1987 (photo)
Another view of it. Was there a steel chimney at Wheal Kitty? Calciner? Boilers? The left end in this view seems to be the remains of a dished end, or tapering collar? Would a flue reduce in section l
Topic: Engine house near The Hurlers
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 15/07/2008 23:08:05   Subject: Engine house near The Hurlers
[link]Personal-Album-1561-Image-002[linkphoto]Personal-Album-1561-Image-002[/linkphoto][/link]

Can anyone provide some details for this engine house? It is (was) located near The Hurlers on
Topic: Wheal Kitty Mystery object, 1987 (photo)
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 15/07/2008 22:42:37   Subject: Wheal Kitty Mystery object, 1987 (photo)
Does anyone have any good ideas what this object might have been used for?

Photograph:

[link]Kitty-Tin-Mine-User-Album-Image-002[linkphoto]Kitty-Tin-Mine-User-Album-Image-002[/li
Topic: Anorack gene
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 15/07/2008 09:53:11   Subject: Anorak gene
Perhaps my interest stems from being taken to Margate Caves whilst on our annual Thanet seaside holiday on rainy days wearing a plastic mac. We went to the caves regularly! :lol:
Topic: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 15/07/2008 00:29:15   Subject: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
[quote="AdrianP"]good try though. Now where is that pic of you walking up and down a chamber in Brownley Hill Level playing the Northumbrian pipes ...[/quote]

Do you still have the tape rec
Topic: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 15/07/2008 00:18:56   Subject: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
I have this vivid recollection of this person being lowered, radio in hand, directly onto the top of the big pipe that straddles the shaft at adit level, or getting hung up on some nasty spike stickin
Topic: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 15/07/2008 00:15:59   Subject: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
One-piece suits don't have turn-buttons to hold your crotchy bits in place.
Topic: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 14/07/2008 22:29:33   Subject: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
Just be warned - don't try to supersize that picture unless you have a strong constitution.
Topic: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 14/07/2008 22:13:55   Subject: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
[url]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/photo/Brewery-Shaft-Other-Rock-Mine-Archive-Album-Image-005/ [/url]
:o
Topic: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 14/07/2008 21:56:34   Subject: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
Somewhere I have a pic of a wirey little git on a winch. Watch this space.
Topic: Visiting UK & have questions
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 14/07/2008 21:45:36   Subject: Visiting UK & have questions
Thanks, AR. Good stuff! :)
Topic: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 14/07/2008 21:42:02   Subject: Mountfield Gypsum Mine, East Sussex
25 pics from 1993 just uploaded. Recognise anyone?
Topic: Visiting UK & have questions
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 14/07/2008 21:11:20   Subject: Visiting UK & have questions
We can only guess. There are no contemporary records or any clues underground. Any theories of yours will be no worse than mine. :) All the evidence suggests that the visitors responsible for the sy
Topic: Visiting UK & have questions
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 14/07/2008 20:03:27   Subject: Visiting UK & have questions
Fylfot? We always call that the curved swastika. Those inscriptions are associated with names and dates from the 1720s. The crossed Vs and numbered quarry faces date from the 16th century we believe.
Topic: Visiting UK & have questions
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 14/07/2008 19:28:27   Subject: Visiting UK & have questions
I probably didn't mean you should go to HE to rub shoulders with 'the elite' - I have never been to such a levelling experience as HE - apart from NAMHO meets of course! It is such a friendly conferen
Topic: Visiting UK & have questions
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 14/07/2008 14:02:24   Subject: Visiting UK & have questions
[quote="GreyKat"]Peter it would be great to see some of the Medieval quarries and more industrial mines by you. We are going to be in the London area for at least 3-4 days near the very beginning or
Topic: Oldest mines in Britain
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 14/07/2008 13:46:04   Subject: Oldest mines in Britain
Yes, I just checked Holgate, and nearly all carbon dates were done on bones or antler tools. The oldest was 3390 from Church Hill, Findon.
Topic: Oldest mines in Britain
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 14/07/2008 13:35:19   Subject: Oldest mines in Britain
Antler tools were used for dating, I understand.
Topic: Oldest mines in Britain
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 12/07/2008 14:01:02   Subject: Oldest mines in Britain
It should have dawned on me years ago, but I have just realised that I live not so far from what are probably the oldest archaeologically investigated mining sites in Britain. If you search UK Mines/l
Topic: Visiting UK & have questions
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 12/07/2008 13:20:15   Subject: Visiting UK & have questions
I'm happy to arrange for you to see the sites in Surrey, just south of London. Medieval underground stone quarries, and more recent ones with more 'industrial' features.
Topic: What are they?
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 11/07/2008 20:49:52   Subject: What are they?
[quote="carnkie"]Received from Paul Richards:

[i]Top picture small steam engine
Bottom axle of a water wheel driven stamps. The holes are for the cams which lifted the lifters [/i]
Topic: Another statue
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 11/07/2008 20:45:41   Subject: Another statue
Has anyone else got photos of good mining statues?

[img]http://www.wcms.org.uk/images/vpminer.jpg[/img]

I quite like this one. The coal mines at Varpalota in Hungary are now clos
Topic: The Hunter Tunneler Returns!
Peter Burgess

Forum: Mining Methods & Techniques   Posted: 10/07/2008 13:48:37   Subject: The Hunter Tunneler Returns!
Sorry - slightly off topic, but

Check this link:

[url]http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/c/channel_tunnel_1880_attempt/index.shtml[/url]

and the subsequent one f
Topic: The Hunter Tunneler Returns!
Peter Burgess

Forum: Mining Methods & Techniques   Posted: 10/07/2008 13:41:18   Subject: The Hunter Tunneler Returns!
[img]http://www.kurg.org.uk/images/thumbnails/1880ct.jpg[/img]

7 ft diameter drive out under the beach and the English Channel at Folkestone in 1880, a project run by Sir Edward Watkin. Inf
Topic: Scope of Aditnow
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 10/07/2008 13:20:21   Subject: Scope of Aditnow
Good - no silly boundaries then. I'd still find it hard to summon up any enthusiasm to record every chalk pit in the SE unless it was of some note historically or in terms of surviving remains. The we
Topic: Scope of Aditnow
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 10/07/2008 13:09:12   Subject: Scope of Aditnow
So the Scope of Aditnow is the exploration, industrial history and archaeology of mineral extraction and related infrastructure.
Topic: Scope of Aditnow
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 10/07/2008 11:27:43   Subject: Scope of Aditnow
As a newbie, can someone clarify the scope of Aditnow? Is it limited to underground extraction? Are people happy with surface extraction sites being added?

From my view, it seems sensible
Topic: Mining in the South East
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 09/07/2008 15:45:54   Subject: Mining in the South East
[quote="JohnnearCfon"]I am quite stunned at the number of photos Adrian and yourself have uploaded in the couple of weeks or so since you joined Adit Now! Adrian is now in amongst the top 10 contribut
Topic: Mining in the South East
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 08/07/2008 13:19:40   Subject: Mining in the South East
Most recent pics are from Ady. I will be adding more at some time, a few historical views but mostly underground shots of some SE mines. My old albums are put away at the mo and I won't be retrieving
Topic: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 08/07/2008 08:14:57   Subject: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
Well, as this has gone so quickly off topic (not surprising as the artefact thread has been locked), I can add my comments about access. Thinking back on which trips I have been on which are the most
Topic: Mining in the South East
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 07/07/2008 22:04:28   Subject: Mining in the South East
I'm just waiting for access to the records AdrianP set up so I can add some meat to the bones.
Topic: Does this count?
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 07/07/2008 21:57:47   Subject: Does this count?
[quote="AdrianP"]LOL that could explain a lot of things :wub: [/quote]

Indeed. Is that a very large roll of wallpaper under your arm in that avatar?
Topic: Mining in the South East
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 07/07/2008 20:09:55   Subject: Mining in the South East
AdrianP and myself have agreed to add many South East mines and quarries (underground ones) to the database between us. There. Now we are committed to doing it. :thumbup:
Topic: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 07/07/2008 19:52:06   Subject: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
As you have demonstrated a steadfast grasp of your principles, I have no point to make. :)

Topic: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 07/07/2008 19:15:49   Subject: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
I guess Jagman doesn't buy books about mines as it only encourages more publicity to be generated..... :confused:
Topic: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 07/07/2008 15:46:22   Subject: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
[quote="Level1"]What a wonderful irony that a thread that began on the topic of artefact removal morphed into one on mineral removal, and a thread that began about mineral removal has already attracte
Topic: Illumination before the Striking Match
Peter Burgess

Forum: Mining Methods & Techniques   Posted: 07/07/2008 13:23:40   Subject: Illumination before the Striking Match
But without the close-fitting lid, I suspect, and a good deal larger.
Topic: Illumination before the Striking Match
Peter Burgess

Forum: Mining Methods & Techniques   Posted: 07/07/2008 13:09:22   Subject: Illumination before the Striking Match
This idea of a stone candle box is one that I had most expected to find an equivalent for in the slate quarries, as some are probably old enough, and there is plenty of raw material around to make the
Topic: Illumination before the Striking Match
Peter Burgess

Forum: Mining Methods & Techniques   Posted: 07/07/2008 10:43:25   Subject: Illumination before the Striking Match
Two pics of the Chaldon box:

[img]http://www.wcms.org.uk/images/bedlams_pb625_rockshaw_box.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.wcms.org.uk/images/bedlams_pb630_rockshaw_box.jpg[/img]
Topic: Illumination before the Striking Match
Peter Burgess

Forum: Mining Methods & Techniques   Posted: 07/07/2008 10:17:34   Subject: Illumination before the Striking Match
That looks highly plausible. It wouldn't be as old as 1820 would it? I wonder how long it took for matches to come into common use.
Topic: Illumination before the Striking Match
Peter Burgess

Forum: Mining Methods & Techniques   Posted: 07/07/2008 09:56:36   Subject: Illumination before the Striking Match
Arthur Price in his recent excellent book "Cheltenham Stone" identified several boxes fashioned in stone with a stone slab as a lid in which the remains of candles and tinder were identified. These ar
Topic: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 06/07/2008 18:06:40   Subject: The Ethics of Mineral Collecting
I have picked up some minerals from mines I have visited, but almost always from rocks lying on the floor, and more times than not I am happy to just look at what there is and put it back again. I hav
Topic: The ethics of artefact removal
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 06/07/2008 12:35:33   Subject: The ethics of artefact removal
I wish the matter of mineral collecting was discussed in a thread of its own. The question of artefact removal is important enough that a discussion on it should not be diluted by arguments about mine
Topic: The ethics of artefact removal
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 05/07/2008 21:04:59   Subject: The ethics of artefact removal
Values of what it is acceptable to do at a historical site change with the generations. Sir Christopher Wren is supposed to have carved his initials on a stone at Stonehenge. Would he be allowed to do
Topic: The importance of animals
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 04/07/2008 13:23:19   Subject: The importance of animals
All this discussion on horses just brings home to me how valuable the ancent quarries I explore are as a resource for evidence of haulage by oxen. I suspect that there are very few other sites of comp
Topic: Does this count?
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 04/07/2008 12:20:33   Subject: Does this count?
Or this?

[img]http://www.wcms.org.uk/images/gmsdig070724_js07_childs_trike.jpg[/img]
Topic: The importance of animals
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 04/07/2008 12:10:03   Subject: The importance of animals
Levant is a mine where ponies were used underground, and of course there are the horse levels in the North Pennines. On the surface there were horse whims and crushers. And I suspect women and childre
Topic: The ethics of artefact removal
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 04/07/2008 11:00:14   Subject: The ethics of artefact removal
There are good recent examples of ancient coal workings being uncovered by opencasting, and archaeologists being allowed to record and preserve items discovered before being swept away forever. These
Topic: The importance of animals
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 03/07/2008 22:08:51   Subject: The importance of animals
Hill ponies - yes, hardiness factors at work! Lowland heavy horses vs oxen is where I think the arguments I read were coming from, and in relation to agricultural work such as ploughing and carting ra
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