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Topic: Margate Grotto
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 26/07/2009 20:55:50   Subject: Margate Grotto
A bit of nostalgia here - one of the first underground places I was ever taken to. Maybe not a mine, but fascinating.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o02xbtSzBA[/url]
Topic: Aerial Ropeway to Dover
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 26/07/2009 20:52:12   Subject: Aerial Ropeway to Dover
An excellent short clip of the aerial ropeway that carried coal down to the docks at Dover. Now all we export are day-trippers.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLH00zaqs_s[/url]
Topic: Destruction of the underground
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 23/07/2009 14:14:38   Subject: Destruction of the underground
This is a dilemma: In order to protect a site, do you publicise how important it is so as to attract the interest of those who might be able to help in their protection, or do you stay quiet and just
Topic: Destruction of the underground
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 23/07/2009 10:46:41   Subject: Destruction of the underground
[quote="derrickman"]I was at Godstone main series not so long ago and the remains of a 70s teenage party are there to be seen :) [/quote]

.... along with large white painted graffiti and sp
Topic: Destruction of the underground
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 22/07/2009 15:15:47   Subject: Destruction of the underground
Here is my catalogue of unfortunate losses in Surrey.

Removal of 200 year old rails as souvenirs.

Trampling of footprints and haulage marks, possibly 500 years old.

Re
Topic: NEW ADITNOW BOOK - suggestions please!
Peter Burgess

Forum: Site Updates, Suggestions & Corrections   Posted: 17/07/2009 13:29:57   Subject: NEW ADITNOW BOOK - suggestions please!
Have a look at www.inkylittlefingers.co.uk - they are not POD, but they do small print runs at sensible prices. They don't appear to have a hardcover option, but do have free delivery within the UK. I
Topic: NEW ADITNOW BOOK - suggestions please!
Peter Burgess

Forum: Site Updates, Suggestions & Corrections   Posted: 14/07/2009 22:18:57   Subject: NEW ADITNOW BOOK - suggestions please!
Thanks - I haven't heard of them. I'll fire up google.
Topic: NEW ADITNOW BOOK - suggestions please!
Peter Burgess

Forum: Site Updates, Suggestions & Corrections   Posted: 14/07/2009 14:42:44   Subject: NEW ADITNOW BOOK - suggestions please!
A serious word of caution regarding lulu publishing. This year, their support infrastructure appears to be in a bad way. I recently had cause to contact them regarding three major printing issues (wro
Topic: phoenix (photo)
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 10/07/2009 22:08:51   Subject: phoenix (photo)
.... and the rail that runs across the junction (the RH one going straight ahead) appears to be chaired to the wooden sleepers (although it isn't that clear). Would this be the case if this was going
Topic: phoenix (photo)
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 10/07/2009 21:49:59   Subject: phoenix (photo)

Photograph:

[link]PHOENIX-UNITED-Mine-Archive-Album-Image-37204[linkphoto]PHOENIX-UNITED-Mine-Archive-Album-Image-37204[/linkphoto][/link]

[quote]If this is super-sized, th
Topic: NEW ADITNOW BOOK - suggestions please!
Peter Burgess

Forum: Site Updates, Suggestions & Corrections   Posted: 10/07/2009 09:29:21   Subject: NEW ADITNOW BOOK - suggestions please!
Lulu is fine for paperback quality B+W - if you place a bulk order you will get something with as good a quality as the Snailbeach Lead Mine book.

If you want nice glossy paper or colour t
Topic: What Knot's This Then?
Peter Burgess

Forum: SRT Equipment & Training   Posted: 08/07/2009 13:51:09   Subject: What Knot's This Then?
Just watch that everyone goes down the correct half of the rope!
Topic: What Knot's This Then?
Peter Burgess

Forum: SRT Equipment & Training   Posted: 08/07/2009 13:30:21   Subject: What Knot's This Then?
It looks to me like the rope is round both the wood and the rail, the wood being put there to provide a degree of protection to the rope, preventing full contact with the steel rail. The knot seems to
Topic: Caption
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 07/07/2009 20:34:38   Subject: Caption
Early attempts to replicate Trevithick's road locomotive failed to make the grade.
Topic: Mystery object, 1987 (photo)
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 02/07/2009 19:19:25   Subject: Mystery object, 1987 (photo)
[url]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/community/viewtopic.aspx?t=1630[/url]

There you go.
Topic: Box Loco - Question
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 30/06/2009 21:16:26   Subject: Box Loco - Question
Thanks, Ben. This is one of the most educational message boards I subscribe to!
Topic: Box Loco - Question
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 30/06/2009 19:20:23   Subject: Box Loco - Question
Was it usual for coffee-pot type locos to have the boiler slung so low as in that illustration? That would seem to indicate an operating environment with limited headroom.
Topic: Shot Towers
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 30/06/2009 11:10:21   Subject: Shot Towers
[quote="ttxela"]I've made lead shot by dribbling the lead off a length if iron gutter from a garage roof into a bucket of water in the past. It's quite tricky as the guttering needs to be heated as we
Topic: 1978 - Main Incline B Floor (photo)
Peter Burgess

Forum: North Wales   Posted: 29/06/2009 23:28:29   Subject: 1978 - Main Incline B Floor (photo)
That's funny! ;D
Topic: Eerie places.... Above ground
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 29/06/2009 11:46:18   Subject: Eerie places.... Above ground
Any clifftop in the mist, with a nearby fog siren hooting away gives me the willies. Pendeen springs immediately to mind.

Topic: Copper Mines on Snowdon
Peter Burgess

Forum: North Wales   Posted: 27/06/2009 22:39:14   Subject: Copper Mines on Snowdon
[quote="royfellows"]Britannia Mine....

[/quote]

Just out of curiosity, is it true that the mine was actually officially "Brittania Mine" because it was registered by someone who
Topic: Eerie places.... Above ground
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 27/06/2009 20:19:13   Subject: Eerie places.... Above ground

[quote]One of the eeriest places I know of is where I work when I get called in out of hours.

The place is fine during the day but at night the place just gives me the collywobbles, c
Topic: Hulton Archive
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 26/06/2009 22:40:19   Subject: Hulton Archive
[url]http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/creative/frontdoor/hultonarchive?esource=googUK_Images_Collections_House&language=en-gb&kw=gbr+Hulton_Archive[/url]

You may or may not be aware of this ver
Topic: NAMHO Conference
Peter Burgess

Forum: Events   Posted: 12/06/2009 09:44:07   Subject: NAMHO Conference
I had to pull out due to a clash of dates. Really annoying, too, but at least my booking fee was refunded quickly - thanks!
Topic: Different underground photography techniques
Peter Burgess

Forum: Underground Photography & Video   Posted: 11/06/2009 08:37:51   Subject: Different underground photography techniques
My compact has a 'long shutter' setting which gives me about 2 seconds in which to manually fire off two flash guns, linked by slave. I much prefer the results to light painting.

You get
Topic: Charcoal as fuel for Cornish engine
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 09/06/2009 21:49:45   Subject: Charcoal as fuel for Cornish engine
I have no idea, but I can't see the point. Why not chuck wood into the boiler in the first place, rather than muck about converting it to charcoal and losing all that lovely combustible volatile gas?
Topic: Brownley Hills - Yesterdays' Golconda?
Peter Burgess

Forum: North West England   Posted: 09/06/2009 15:32:46   Subject: Brownley Hills - Yesterdays' Golconda?
Another great book from that time which I still have is "Steam Engines and Waterwheels" by Frank Woodall.
Topic: Brownley Hills - Yesterdays' Golconda?
Peter Burgess

Forum: North West England   Posted: 09/06/2009 15:29:49   Subject: Brownley Hills - Yesterdays' Golconda?
Absolutely, ICLOK - I agree. At least the "silly" title made me go and find out what it meant!
Topic: Penwyllt research
Peter Burgess

Forum: South Wales   Posted: 08/06/2009 12:39:40   Subject: Penwyllt research
Does anyone know of other installations of similar systems to the one described here:

[url]http://swcc.org.uk/aboutswcc/history/penwyllt_village/penwyllt_haulage.pdf[/url]

This e
Topic: Brownley Hills - Yesterdays' Golconda?
Peter Burgess

Forum: North West England   Posted: 08/06/2009 09:54:35   Subject: Brownley Hills - Yesterdays' Golconda?
I still refer to this book from time to time, over 25 years since I bought it. To me, that's a sign of a very good book.

There is a similar book - published by Bradford-Barton, I think. Bri
Topic: New event added 'Snailbeach SRT Exploration' on 06/06/2009 at 10:00
Peter Burgess

Forum: Events   Posted: 07/06/2009 20:40:05   Subject: New event added 'Snailbeach SRT Exploration' on 06/06/2009 at 10:00
And did you buy the excellent book?
Topic: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 05/06/2009 13:11:00   Subject: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
Here is a closer view of the two pits. No inclined plane visible though.

[url]http://oldreigate.com/gallery.php?picture=231[/url]
Topic: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 05/06/2009 13:04:50   Subject: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
I am sure Paul Sowan will not object to me quoting (and abridging) significant parts of his article here:

[i]Early in the 20th century there was, briefly, a small-scale whiting works at the
Topic: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 02/06/2009 22:27:55   Subject: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
I popped into the HNHC this evening. They couldn't find their bulletin archive file! But one person promised to post their personal copy of issue 88 to me, so maybe I'll have some more info soon.
Topic: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 28/05/2009 13:37:26   Subject: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
The extensive bibliography compiled by Paul Sowan includes the following three entries:

[i]Taylor, George 1909 Well sunk at Clears Shaw .. for Mr. G. Taylor 1909 .. made and communicate
Topic: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 28/05/2009 13:01:01   Subject: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
You can see the whiting pit on the side of the hill in this photo:

[link]Colley-Hill-Hearthstone-Mine-Sandstone-Mine-Archive-Album-Image-002[linkphoto]Colley-Hill-Hearthstone-Mine-Sandstone
Topic: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
Peter Burgess

Forum: South East England   Posted: 28/05/2009 12:57:31   Subject: Colley Hill Hearthstone Other Rock Mine
Hi there

I know the Whitings house. In fact, it wasn't the hearthstone that was processed there, but the chalk from a small pit higher up the hill. This was turned into whiting. The hearths
Topic: Caradon User Album (album)
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 27/05/2009 10:32:17   Subject: Caradon User Album (album)
And any chance of having some descriptions on the new images? Ta.
Topic: Caradon User Album (album)
Peter Burgess

Forum: South West England   Posted: 27/05/2009 10:19:02   Subject: Caradon User Album (album)
We already have a Liskeard and Caradon Railway entry. Can we merge these please?
Topic: Animal headgear
Peter Burgess

Forum: North America   Posted: 27/05/2009 09:00:53   Subject: Animal headgear
Thanks for that - useful information!
Topic: Animal headgear
Peter Burgess

Forum: North America   Posted: 26/05/2009 22:37:08   Subject: Animal headgear
Two examples - one from the Godstone Hill quarries and one from Marden Mine. One slight word of caution - both sites were used as mushroom farms, and although we can be pretty sure horses were not use
Topic: Animal headgear
Peter Burgess

Forum: North America   Posted: 26/05/2009 22:17:25   Subject: Animal headgear
Bear with me and I'll find a scale drawing and post it up. (Surrey, by the way :) )
Topic: Animal headgear
Peter Burgess

Forum: North America   Posted: 26/05/2009 10:45:14   Subject: Animal headgear
I think the 'ponies' were actually draught horses - although maybe not huge ones. The shoes that have turned up from time to time are pretty big. We have been told that the pads were supplied by colli
Topic: Animal headgear
Peter Burgess

Forum: North America   Posted: 26/05/2009 09:37:26   Subject: Animal headgear
Protectors for the horses used at Godstone can be seen, although a bit blurred, in these two images from 1900. The galleries typically average little more than 5' 6" high.


[link]Godst
Topic: mine tramway with overhead electric
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 21/05/2009 20:58:47   Subject: mine tramway with overhead electric
Didn't Greenside Mine have an overhead electric system running into the main adit? And the miners had to be wary of carrying their drills on their shoulders? I think it's described in Ian Tyler's book
Topic: Dumping the Wheal
Peter Burgess

Forum: North West England   Posted: 21/05/2009 20:53:56   Subject: Dumping the Wheal
Incorrect spelling of mine names isn't limited to the Welsh language. Was there not a "Brittania Mine" halfway up Snowdon? Or is "Brittania" the Welsh way to spell "Britannia"? It's all Greek to me an
Topic: New ceramic and tile dating method
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 21/05/2009 11:52:34   Subject: New ceramic and tile dating method
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8058185.stm[/url]

This looks very promising.
Topic: Mystery Objects
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 21/05/2009 10:02:59   Subject: Mystery Objects
Bales or other bundles of something, but not peat. THe compost was freshly composted horse manure and straw, done on site. My guess is we will never know unless we get lucky with an old photo, or by s
Topic: Mystery Objects
Peter Burgess

Forum: General Chat   Posted: 20/05/2009 22:20:08   Subject: Mystery Objects
Sometimes really mundane objects in mines and quarries can leave you scratching your head for years and never coming up with a definitive identification.

Sometimes it pays to have the views
Topic: Dumping the Wheal
Peter Burgess

Forum: North West England   Posted: 20/05/2009 20:29:55   Subject: Dumping the Wheal
[quote="Peter Burgess"]If it has a map reference then it isn't a mine with no content and it is a useful entry. Here's a pseudo script for you....

DELETE MINELIST WITH DESCRIPTION = NULL AN
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