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Posted: 02/12/2018 11:45:04
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On the BBC website this morning, but source is here:

https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/news/pressreleases/2018/october/revolutionary-urban-farms-aim-to-take-crop-growing-underground.aspx

Could somebody invite these profs to Apedale maybe? Or tell them the annual cost of de-watering Caphouse? OK, the UK has a proud history of mushroom and cannabis cultivation underground, but to propose the large scale re-opening of mining "tunnels" (sic) is farcical.

Fair enough, technically possible in a few places, mainly stone. But to include coal mines, and presumably use them to give the figures quoted, shows a mind numbing lack of knowledge of simple concepts like long wall mining.

Favourite quote: "In fact, the subterranean environment is naturally suited to the growth of plants." Which is why it's like a jungle down there Cursing

I'll leave the last word to another esteemed academic.



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Posted: 02/12/2018 11:51:28
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I liked the part of the BBC article where an 'expert' had stated that is was practical as it was already being done in an old air raid shelter under Clapham Common. Plenty of sisimilarities there. IP: 213.205.198.111
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Posted: 02/12/2018 11:56:47
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Surely the costs will be prohibitive anyway, some farmers struggle with costs as it is, never mind propping up thousands of tonnes of rocks.

Could work in somewhere like Middleton mine I suppose but something like disused rail tunnels will be loads more suitable.
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Posted: 02/12/2018 12:02:56
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Perhaps the professors were thinking inside the BoxSmartass IP: 81.140.232.210
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Posted: 02/12/2018 13:04:16
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My ex-brother in law been growing mushrooms in his loft for years, more cost effective than opening old mines, rent out your loft to mushroom farmers. IP: 79.78.227.104
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Posted: 02/12/2018 17:36:47
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One wonders if the esteemed professors have been into an abandoned coal mine?


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Posted: 02/12/2018 17:45:47
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BBC Wales have this, complete with "realistic" diagrams;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46221656

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Posted: 02/12/2018 18:05:26
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Like this statement
The idea has already gained support from mine owners
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Posted: 02/12/2018 21:03:54
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As Manager of a large mine with 170 odd miles of roadways, this sounds wonderful news. However, nobody seems to have mentioned the restrictions imposed by legislation!
We are a non FLP mine too. How it works in coal mines would be great to hear......
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Posted: 02/12/2018 22:44:08
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Whilst I would quite like to post a funny reply maybe along the lines of - a trial should be done in the old Cornish Coal Mines - I will not because I suspect that the original on the Nottingham Website is a spoof. Looking at other press releases on the site there are differences in the way this has been posted and indexed. I think someone has done quite a good job of planting a bit of 'fake news'. Lets see if its still there in a few days.

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Posted: 03/12/2018 11:56:31
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Yep you are totally correct! This is blatant fake news... BBC should be ashamed of themselves for posting this kind of nonsense! There is no real academics or 'experts' behind this GlareGlareCursing IP: 81.110.180.230
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Posted: 03/12/2018 12:32:50
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Bodger wrote:

Yep you are totally correct! This is blatant fake news... BBC should be ashamed of themselves for posting this kind of nonsense! There is no real academics or 'experts' behind this GlareGlareCursing


You sound very sure and perhaps you are right but the Chinese academic named does seem to work at Nottingham Uni, not that that means it not a bit on make believe.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Yijun_Yuan3

It does give you a contact email to check, should you wish!Innocent

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Posted: 03/12/2018 13:11:23
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https://www.wsset.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Deep-farms-Article.pdf
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Posted: 03/12/2018 13:47:39
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Bodger wrote:

Yep you are totally correct! This is blatant fake news... BBC should be ashamed of themselves for posting this kind of nonsense! There is no real academics or 'experts' behind this GlareGlareCursing
It's a patent application for which all you need is a defined concept, rather than a deeply researched solution.
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Posted: 03/12/2018 14:01:47
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OK my bad they are real academics Laugh Surrender! I still think it is fake news though! IP: 81.110.180.230
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Posted: 03/12/2018 14:39:52
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I like this bit:

Cost-effective underground tunnels for crop planting could be constructed using new drilling techniques...

Because driving tunnels is so cost-effective....

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Posted: 03/12/2018 14:45:37
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It's possibly timed for the conference in Katowice, perhaps a sop to the Polish coal industry and some rather peeved minersDevil

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Posted: 03/12/2018 16:57:47
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I imagine the first person to suggest sticking windmills in the middle of the North Sea was laughed at too. Smile IP: 209.93.128.95
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Posted: 03/12/2018 17:01:47
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Peter Burgess wrote:

I imagine the first person to suggest sticking windmills in the middle of the North Sea was laughed at too. Smile


Well he was a Dutchman and forgot to mention he was going to build some polders first.Confused
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Posted: 04/12/2018 11:11:48
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Let's face it. These days it's all about having a semi-plausible idea, then getting a load of funding from everywhere and diverting it into adventurers pockets. It's the new capitalism.

Cornish Lithium is probably the best example we have of this. The actual science is almost totally lacking.
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