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Monty Stubble

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Posted: 19/11/2020 09:21:45
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How long until this place is well and truly secured? More Youtube Warriors.

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Four males were rescued overnight from the Box Hill stone mines. The rescue involved Wiltshire Police, Avon & Somerset police, Dorset & Wilts Fire service, Hanson UK and the Mendip Cave Rescue team, the group were brought to the surface at 03:55hrs this morning.

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Posted: 19/11/2020 09:35:21
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I fancy that what we will be seeing will be the usual tug of war between the owners and the angle grinders. I doubt that tons of concrete would be feasible because of the bats.

If any more details of this emerge, please post them, I am wondering whether its kids with phone torches again or as you say, YouTube warriors.

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Posted: 19/11/2020 11:01:34
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TPTB could at least slam them with the max fine for lockdown-busting. Should have the cost of the rescue garnished from their benefits too.

Stumps Cursing

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Posted: 19/11/2020 15:12:28
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It was 4 lads in their 20's. Call out wasphoned in by their parents...

Didnt have proper gear and im guessing they got lost somewhere around Cath and then tried to get out of backdoor.

I wouldnt mind so much if the unofficial agreement with Hansons was still in place for bode fide cavers but with all these idiots going in I wouldnt be surprised if they do finally seal it for good.
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Posted: 19/11/2020 15:23:24
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Googling for 'box mine rescue' gives an impressively long list. All f*ckwits.

If I were Hansons, I'd be pouring concrete in all the entrances.

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Posted: 19/11/2020 16:09:27
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Not aloud to fill them in as there is still very active bats inside , at the same time I completely understand why they are angry .

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Posted: 19/11/2020 16:47:21
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Down and beyond wrote:

Not aloud to fill them in as there is still very active bats inside , at the same time I completely understand why they are angry .


Hansons won't be long before the 'crete goes in behind the shuttering, there are plenty of other batty eagresses!!

10-1 odds anyone?

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Posted: 19/11/2020 16:47:30
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ChrisJC wrote:

Googling for 'box mine rescue' gives an impressively long list. All f*ckwits.

If I were Hansons, I'd be pouring concrete in all the entrances.

Chris.


A massive Cv19 fine might have helped hammer the message home! Any kind of message! As it is anyone who reads that will just think "they got away with it, so can I!". Cursing

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Posted: 19/11/2020 16:49:34
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Very true possibly they could say the will use the vent shaft .

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Posted: 19/11/2020 17:23:56
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It really isn't that simple - change the fundamental dynamics of air flow in a cave/mine, and it has a big impact on the suitability of a site for bats. Plus, the better sites tend to be those that have access points with a "green" corridor into the wild beyond - an open hole in the middle of nothing means the critters have to run the gauntlet of predators as they visit the site. Or so I am led to believe following recent comments on a similar issue in Surrey. Hansons would do well to avoid the risk of a fine for contravening wildlife legislation. Bat protection groups are pretty hot on that stuff these days. Both explorers and owners have responsibilities to do the sensible thing. It's just a shame many explorers can't or don't want to understand this. IP: 91.125.156.131
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Posted: 21/11/2020 15:39:08
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I've never been in Box but the pictures |I've seen of it show a mine thats been severely degraded by massive amounts of mindless graffiti, its not good that responsible explorers now have trouble accessing this site but this mine does seem to have had chronic problems with attracting the wrong sort of visitors of the beer and spraypaint variety. I wouldn't put it past Hansons to seal it totally, they are a massive firm and could simply shrug off any fine the courts might impose. IP: 2.120.75.105
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Posted: 21/11/2020 18:55:45
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When I first saw the article in the DM on Thursday I posted a little comment there to the effect that there are a number of official mine exploration groups in the UK, but they keep within the law and place safety before all else. Sites can attract privateers who insist in putting themselves and others in danger and this was disastrous publicity for legitimate explorers and mine historians. It's like p***ing in the wind, I'm afraid. IP: 87.80.36.174
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Posted: 22/11/2020 01:18:18
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The first time I went into Box we met a few people in there but they had locked the gate after entering, and were known to our guide.
It was a good trip and it was enjoyable.
The second time a few years later, was a real contrast, with hoards of people wandering about in daytime clothes with just torches and no ppe of any sort, not even a helmet.
The Cathedral was crowded with photo goons dressed in similar fashion, and the number of people that stopped us for directions was incredible, many looking for the way out!
Social media is a two edged sword. It works to inform, but also offers invitation to the inexperienced looking for an adventure.
Another sad loss to bona fide explorers.

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