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Lowering A Camera 650Ft Down A Flooded Mine Shaft To A Huge Collapse
Posted: 17/10/2020 20:15:54
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In this footage from a professionally commissioned survey, a camera is lowered 650 feet or 200 metres down a flooded coal pit shaft to examine the damage from a huge collapse, looking at various features on the way.

The shaft was started in the 1870s, was 14 foot wide and reached a depth of 282 metres or 925 feet. The mine closed in the 1960s.

Enjoy the video and stay safe.



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Lowering A Camera 650Ft Down A Flooded Mine Shaft To A Huge Collapse
Posted: 17/10/2020 22:32:11
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Lowering A Camera 650Ft Down A Flooded Mine Shaft To A Huge Collapse
Posted: 17/10/2020 22:47:06
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Fixed Shocked)

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Lowering A Camera 650Ft Down A Flooded Mine Shaft To A Huge Collapse
Posted: 18/10/2020 11:44:12
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So was your video survey you was doing to help the coal board out or somebody ? Just wondering as you have clearly gone to a lot of effort doing this and not reaching the very bottom am A bit confused .

Cheers Tom

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Posted: 18/10/2020 11:47:46
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I'm informed by the person who did it, it was for the coal authority as part of a regular process to monitor the state of the collapse.

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Lowering A Camera 650Ft Down A Flooded Mine Shaft To A Huge Collapse
Posted: 18/10/2020 11:52:25
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Ahh makes sense are they going back to reach the very bottem ?

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Posted: 18/10/2020 17:21:38
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Where was this shaft in the country? IP: 91.84.67.15
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Posted: 24/10/2020 09:35:52
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Anyone know where this shaft was situated?

Surely its not a secret.
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Posted: 24/10/2020 11:21:41
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The name of the shaft and the name of the company doing the survey have been blurred out. You have to ask yourself why blur our the company name, surely that would be good advertising.

Ofcourse the Coal Authority will know both of those details. Although I suspect they also might wonder why a video of one of their shafts has been released. May be ask the Coal Authority where it is, and why they do these surveys - they will tell you
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Posted: 24/10/2020 11:57:25
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I imagine the company name has been blurred out because AME are using a copyrighted video, without permission from the copyright holder.

Blurring out the name makes it harder for anyone to find out who actually owns the video footage, unless the owner themselves comes across the video
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Posted: 24/10/2020 13:16:38
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robnorthwales wrote:

I imagine the company name has been blurred out because AME are using a copyrighted video, without permission from the copyright holder.

Blurring out the name makes it harder for anyone to find out who actually owns the video footage, unless the owner themselves comes across the video


Agree, UKAME probably "borrowed" the footage from somewhere else and blurred it out.
The Coal Authority does occasionally release these, or gives permission for them to be shared.

There is another thread on AN somewhere with some legitimate footage but I can't find it at the moment....



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Posted: 24/10/2020 20:13:47
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I was wondering because a video was on the Welshcoalmines in the week after they put a drone down Cefn Coed shaft to check the state of things down there,also heard the winding wheels are back up on the re-built headframe. IP: 91.84.67.15
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Posted: 25/10/2020 09:21:47
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I do wonder if they even realise the potential for damages against them if the copyright holder got wind of it. As the video is on youtube (based in the USA), the fines, court fees, etc. could be in the tens of thousands per viewing - or the law firm says "Instead of going to court, pay $100k and we'll let it go"
Sheer stupidity
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Posted: 25/10/2020 09:27:53
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The people that done the camera work are very skilled people I use to do it on the roads in the drains keeping it smooth without jerking it is very hard so i suspect a professional company done it.unless ukame have a team member who does this at work the equipment costs thousands it’s far from cheap also a 200m cable is very long we never had one that length But my only question is why did they not reach the bottom ? To check for another collapse does not make sense in my view they went past the first collapse didn’t stop at that ? So surly you would keep going the coal board would no the depth of the shaft and send there team with a correct length cable .

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Lowering A Camera 650Ft Down A Flooded Mine Shaft To A Huge Collapse
Posted: 25/10/2020 10:39:55
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Here`s the short one for Cefn Coed shaft,

https://youtu.be/2QOZZpaKAC4
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Posted: 25/10/2020 10:48:28
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Down and beyond wrote:



The people that done the camera work are very skilled people I use to do it on the roads in the drains keeping it smooth without jerking it is very hard so i suspect a professional company done it.unless ukame have a team member who does this at work



UKAME have just ripped off the video in this case; this isn't something they have actually done themselves.



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Lowering A Camera 650Ft Down A Flooded Mine Shaft To A Huge Collapse
Posted: 25/10/2020 10:58:11
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Oooo I see ! Hope they had full permission for use ! People get very funny about rights now days Laugh

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Posted: 25/10/2020 11:05:37
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Plagiarism. /'ple?d??r?z(?)m/

Noun.
The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.

Synonyms:
infringement; piracy; appropriation; borrowing; fraud; stealing; theft; counterfeiting.

...Simples Roll Eyes

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Posted: 25/10/2020 11:21:52
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Last time Mr S. Twigg (alias AME and retrogamerVX? I think) was asked about permission (Yorkshire TV in that case), he used a questionable word formulation to suggest it had been given, by saying that the copyright holder had been "approached". Not exactly crystal clear.

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Posted: 25/10/2020 11:38:20
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Whatever the case, I don't find the majority of videos produced in mines worth watching. They are either endlessly boring helmetcam footage in which you can't really see a huge amount, or have a "dramatic" noisy music track which ruins what I like about going underground - quiet reflection on history (in mines) or nature (in caves). Occasionally some good stuff pops up - but only occasionally. After watching a few vids from particular Youtubers, you soon learn to tune out and ignore them. I have better things to do, and much better things to watch. IP: 209.93.224.78
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