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Posted: 28/08/2020 09:05:42
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Thanks all. Went through yesterday with no major problems.

We couldn't get the canoe to us as the line had wrapped itself around the pole in the middle of the chamber (would be useful if somebody took a hacksaw next time) but the rubber dinghy had been pulled up to the top of the abseil. We were able to use this to retrieve the canoe and the dinghy was returned to the top.

There was LOTS of fresh rockfall on the way up to the Twyl/Twll. Initially we thought we might be going the wrong way as it was a bit of a squeeze to get through.

Other than that, everything was in good condition - somebody's done a lot of work down there! Both the first "zip-wire" and the last bridge now have fixed cables to walk along. This made things much easier. The "tension traverse" has had a revamp too and now has a staple ladder at the start and a small foot bridge at the final tricky section. These are made from old parts found in the mine, which we thought was a nice touch.

I took my 13 year old daughter with me and she did great. Had to set up a 3:1 hauling system to get her out of the Chamber of Horrors though. So the only real issue of the day was a pulled muscle in my shoulder. Laugh




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Posted: 28/08/2020 10:06:38
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Well done that's a proper adventure with your girl, she's a brave kid Thumbs Up

Cheers for the feedback on the route, will be helpful to others.
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Posted: 29/08/2020 18:58:58
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IP: 81.140.252.69 Edited: 29/08/2020 18:59:27 by glyndavidson
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Posted: 07/09/2020 22:12:38
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Great video, thank you for posting it.
Glad you all enjoyed the trip and well done Ada, most of those obstacles would be daunting to experienced mine explorers, let alone a newby.
Thanks also for the comments and report of the in-situ gear. Glad you found it all easy to use.
The canoe in the Chambers of Horrors has always been a problem. We have re-installed the pulley system so many times but it seems people simply can't work out how to use it and end up cutting the rope. Angry As soon as they do this it can't be reset without an entire new rope some 250 ft long or so. We have given up replacing it.
The best thing is to ensure each group has an inflatable dinghy with them and that they take it out with them too. Thumbs Up
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Posted: 08/09/2020 14:15:13
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royfellows wrote:

Pete Monkhouse wrote:

Are you registered on the site? If you still can’t find it PM me and I’ll email it tomorrow. Drunk now! Smile


Yes you are drunk. If he not registered would not be able to post.
Irish malt?

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Thank you Roy!
Fair point, well made....
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Posted: 08/09/2020 17:20:35
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Glad you took it the right way, only a joke.
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Posted: 09/09/2020 21:52:35
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Speedycaver wrote:

Great video, thank you for posting it.
Glad you all enjoyed the trip and well done Ada, most of those obstacles would be daunting to experienced mine explorers, let alone a newby.
Thanks also for the comments and report of the in-situ gear. Glad you found it all easy to use.
The canoe in the Chambers of Horrors has always been a problem. We have re-installed the pulley system so many times but it seems people simply can't work out how to use it and end up cutting the rope. Angry As soon as they do this it can't be reset without an entire new rope some 250 ft long or so. We have given up replacing it.
The best thing is to ensure each group has an inflatable dinghy with them and that they take it out with them too. Thumbs Up



Hi Pete!
The canoe is always the most awesome bit of the trip! Smile Just wondering if a large diameter roller / pulley (something like an empty cable drum) at each end might work for the canoe pullback rope? It would tolerate a knot on the rope then, maybe use a bigger diameter rope (10mm?), might be more robust? I’d still take a dingy in a rucksack but the canoe is such a treat!
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Posted: 07/10/2020 22:20:10
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Hoping to go on the through trip on 23rd or 24th this month, lockdowns etc permitting.

Thumbs Up Thanks everyone for recent posts on route condition after chamber of horrors, I'm nervous of route finding from there to 9 Adit as never been in Rhosydd before and some descriptions seen contradictory (changed route?)
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Posted: 07/10/2020 22:25:26
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I’ve given reasonable descriptions earlier in the thread, and the survey is on this site. But the obvious answer is to check it out from the Rhossydd end on your way to Croesor (assuming you’re walking via Cwmorthin lake!). Ok, it will add an hour to your trip - but at least you won’t be worrying the whole way! IP: 85.255.234.150
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Posted: 23/10/2020 09:45:25
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Went on the through trip late last night (before today's 6pm lockdown kicks in). I knew there was a lot of work and effort (and money) spent on rigging the route but I was astonished just how much

THANK YOU!

I was also surprised at the amount of fresh rockfall in Rhosydd. After entering Rhosydd the route had a roof collapse with easy squeeze just before the turning circles and incline (with the counterweight cart crashed at halfway) and ukcaving.com wiki says "...The passage terminates in wriggle through collapsed boulders, into a chamber. Ascend the boulder slope for a few metres towards.." Not sure how collapsed that wriggle was in recent past but it looked fresh and a bit Cursing sketchy to me there and at the start of that chamber, not sure how much longer it's going to stay open?

Was wondering about taking my 13 year old son on this but in his case I think I'd need to wait until he's a bit older.

Great adventure, thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks again to the maintainers. (Picked a small amount of litter from others, bad people!)
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Posted: 23/10/2020 11:55:30
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cantclimbtom wrote:


I was also surprised at the amount of fresh rockfall in Rhosydd. After entering Rhosydd the route had a roof collapse with easy squeeze just before the turning circles and incline (with the counterweight cart crashed at halfway) and ukcaving.com wiki says "...The passage terminates in wriggle through collapsed boulders, into a chamber. Ascend the boulder slope for a few metres towards.." Not sure how collapsed that wriggle was in recent past but it looked fresh and a bit Cursing sketchy to me there and at the start of that chamber, not sure how much longer it's going to stay open?

Was wondering about taking my 13 year old son on this but in his case I think I'd need to wait until he's a bit older.

Great adventure, thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks again to the maintainers. (Picked a small amount of litter from others, bad people!)



The big chamber with the massive rocks always feels rough to me, in fact I'm not a fan of that whole floor. Is the first easy squeeze you mention an old wall? Not the Croesor one but another one.
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Posted: 24/10/2020 09:35:23
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alex17595 wrote:

The big chamber with the massive rocks always feels rough to me, in fact I'm not a fan of that whole floor. Is the first easy squeeze you mention an old wall? Not the Croesor one but another one.

Well, I've got to be careful. I'm using squeeze quite liberally, probably the pot holing community wouldn't regard it as a real squeeze. The first one is between the wall and the turning circles incline and is greatly reduced height due to an old rock fall. I had to take of rucksack and push it ahead of me. Perhaps a very very small rucksack you could scrape through with it on. The second one that looked far fresher was a definite wriggle and did look a bit sketchy to get into the big chamber. The chamber itself looked very unstable. While I was in there it was like someone threw a small rock cricket ball sized perhaps with a big bang didn't see it, this was not a sliding stone!!!! You guys will probably dismiss that as a tall story, also some large flat blocks to clamber over may not be very secure although none moved on us as we were Very careful. Very pleased to be out of that chamber
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Posted: 24/10/2020 09:42:44
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I know the bit you mean then at the bottom of the incline where you have to squeeze up.


I can't comment on the fresh looking because everytime I go under I forgot wether the rocks on the floor was there before.
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Posted: 26/10/2020 11:31:04
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Where can I find a survey for Croesor (not Rhosydd) if I want to go back to explore a bit of Croesor beyond the CTRTT path. Thanks all IP: 86.26.204.247
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Posted: 26/10/2020 15:18:54
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For survey maps, simply go to the Mines, Quarries and Sites tab and put Croesor in the search term. When it comes up, in the right hand column is all the info you'll need... Smile

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Posted: 26/10/2020 22:08:46
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Reading this thread I’’ve hunted out an account of the Croesor Rhosydd through trip we made in January 1994. It was not a very professional trip to say the least but may act as a warning to others how not to approach this classic! I‘ve uploaded it to the C/R page https://www.aditnow.co.uk/Mines/Croesor-Slate-Mine_6/
I suspect it may answer the mystery of the wrecked dinghy referred to in the other through trip account Laugh
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Posted: 27/10/2020 07:57:44
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peter.stockton@yorkshiredales.org.uk" Target="_BLANK">class="clsQuote">peter.stockton@yorkshiredales.org.uk wrote:



.... how not to approach this classic! I‘ve uploaded it to the C/R page https://www.aditnow.co.uk/Mines/Croesor-Slate-Mine_6/



Excellent!

Even if you had deleted the written report and only included the comic strip drawings I would still have known exactly which trip it is.
The skeletons and the mine monster give it away Laugh



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