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Posted: 25/09/2020 10:38:01
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Preview of this evening's 'Hidden Wales' with Will Millard and some bloke who seems strangely familiar!

https://twitter.com/BBCWales/status/1309387660939665410?s=20

I'm slightly perplexed by the '1858' scrawled in the mud, as the Cwm-Orthin Slate Company wasn't established until 1861 and there wasn't much underground work done prior to then that hasn't been lost collapses or un-topping... Bored

Anyway, catch the famous mine explorer on BBC1 at 7.30pm tonight or no doubt on iPlayer later.

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IP: 86.154.231.19 Edited: 25/09/2020 11:12:56 by Vanoord
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Posted: 25/09/2020 11:05:57
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I think you need to amend the Freudian slip - spelling bloke as block!

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Posted: 25/09/2020 11:13:27
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ChrisJC wrote:

I think you need to amend the Freudian slip - spelling bloke as block!

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I don't know whether he'd take that as a compliment or an insult! Shocked

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Posted: 25/09/2020 15:47:59
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Glad to see the ever increasing things ‘of death’

I think the date isn’t a date. Just upside down graffiti by the Botanical Society of Britain and Ireland. Big Grin

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Posted: 25/09/2020 20:24:34
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The laser scan of Wrysgan was quite impressive.

Anyone know who collected the data???

I'd love to get in touch and have a play.
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Posted: 25/09/2020 22:04:38
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Very commendable performances by Pred, Miles and David Gwyn. Far too short a programme for the subject matter but I suppose enough for Joe Public to take in.

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Posted: 26/09/2020 12:53:31
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Interesting program, it seems I manage to butcher the pronunciation of every Welsh place/object. IP: 81.151.23.114
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Posted: 26/09/2020 23:57:52
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John_Smith wrote:

The laser scan of Wrysgan was quite impressive.

Anyone know who collected the data???

I'd love to get in touch and have a play.


https://www.facebook.com/terradat/

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Posted: 27/09/2020 10:59:29
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Blober wrote:

John_Smith wrote:

The laser scan of Wrysgan was quite impressive.

Anyone know who collected the data???

I'd love to get in touch and have a play.


https://www.facebook.com/terradat/


Exactly what I was worried about unfortunately. Commercial companies will rarely give out their data. Thanks anyway!
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Posted: 27/09/2020 15:10:06
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The laser scan of Wrysgan was quite impressive.
Anyone know who collected the data???
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.Commercial companies will rarely give out their data..
I wonder why a commercial company would scan Wrysgan ?
Hardly an easy place to go to for just a practice session.
Is someone there an enthusiast or is it a commercial venture ?
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Posted: 27/09/2020 16:46:43
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The information on TerraDat's facebook page suggests that they were commissioned by the BBC to scan Wrysgan and Mynydd Parys for the Will Millard programmes. IP: 5.80.198.200
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Posted: 27/09/2020 17:17:05
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John Griffiths wrote:

The information on TerraDat's facebook page suggests that they were commissioned by the BBC to scan Wrysgan and Mynydd Parys for the Will Millard programmes.
Thanks.
I wonder how much that cost ? The Wrysgan scan was only on air for half a minute. They didn't really make much of it either.
Other programmes that used that technology usually spend more time explaining and interpreting the scans.
The Invisible city series being a prime example eg https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02s75tb (it's even a quarry scan too ;-) )
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Posted: 27/09/2020 17:58:06
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Perhaps the BBC intend to make a 2 hour documentary about the Wormhole in there?

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Posted: 29/09/2020 10:24:49
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Ha, I remember the night we went up to try and remove the 'hanging death' block of slate from above the worm hole. We drilled and chipped bits off then levered it and measured it and said right, one more heave and it should slip through. We levered it and it started to go then kindly tipped and filled the worm hole completely! Apparently it did free itself on it's own a week or two later without giving someone a headache...
The story of the wormhole and the Thursday Nighters would have made for some 'interesting' TV... Laugh

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Posted: 06/10/2020 14:53:03
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Yes, the writing of 1858 was as fresh as yesterday, probably made on the spot with a finger, and the "off limits, dangerous parts", wasn't even cwmorthin, i smiled to myself because visited the "most dangerous place i'm going to take you" part of Oa..kwmorthin. They should make a programme just with Pred, hii s knowledge is amazing, and would get much better mines too ??. IP: 87.74.165.187
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Posted: 06/10/2020 18:44:27
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Problem is that when you're wanting to work in a mine (even as a TV crew) it needs to be either a 'working mine' or an abandoned one with a current mine inspection and access agreement. So yeah, there are other lovely mines in that area, but in order to take a film crew in one, it had to be somewhere like Cwmorthin to be actually legal.

I've seen a few moans about the 'fake' date on FB. I've seen plenty of ancient inscriptions, footprints and fingerprints in mines across the UK that look as good as the day they were made. Believe whatever you choose, but I know the all the guys involved in this and they would not be interested in TV fakery, it's real. I know that place almost better than my own town, and have found similar stuff myself in ground not previously accessible before we got there.
I certainly agree we need a Pred series though.

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Posted: 06/10/2020 21:45:01
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I understand it has to be a safish environment for a film crew, but saying that when Miles took Will around to the "most dangerous part" they're not actually in Cwmorthin at all, they were in oa....... And it is bad, and following that tunnell there's an even dodgier pipe traverse across chamber with a meter traverse with big drop and crumbling quartz as footholds just to get to the pipe itself, (which is held in place by rusty chains and rope). Its the only way on. Its somewhere you wouldn't want to take a film crew, unless Pred was a hidden cameraman. I think clever editing was involved or camera and sound man with srt skills. Also editing to not let people really know where they were. I can't upload photos for some reason of exact place in oakorthin ?? IP: 87.74.165.187
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