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Van Miller

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Posted: 20/06/2020 15:42:57
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History of Van mine near Llanidloes. Was somebody searching for information? My grandfather worked there until it closed. IP: 5.81.205.150
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Posted: 20/06/2020 17:46:38
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Welcome to aditnow.
If you have any old photos or documents it would be really appreciated by many if you could be so kind as to scan and upload them.

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Posted: 21/06/2020 00:11:52
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My grandfather used to drive the railway engine up to the mine. The locals nicknamed it the Fan Donkey.

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Posted: 21/06/2020 19:48:17
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The one Central Wales mine I'd have loved to see underground - and I think that goes for all of us! IP: 86.139.53.229
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Posted: 21/06/2020 20:19:00
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John Mason wrote:

The one Central Wales mine I'd have loved to see underground - and I think that goes for all of us!


Right on!

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Posted: 22/06/2020 13:32:22
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Old photos of Van Mine near Llanidloes. Thank you for your kind response, but I’m also on the hunt for photos. I will ask my extended family if they have any they can dig out. I fear they won’t be of much interest to you mine explorers, though. Any that have been passed down are likely to be above ground family- focused. The Van mine has a place in our family folklore, but for my mother and sisters it was something of a place of doom, because when they were still teenagers, it collapsed economically, evidently taking any family wealth with it! Having done some potholing in my younger days, I find your mine exploration fascinating. If you have a chance to explore the Van Mine I should be delighted to hear about it. IP: 5.80.91.50
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Posted: 22/06/2020 13:56:12
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My understanding is that the adit lead to extensive workings but was blocked off in the 1970s after some kids went in there and got lost. Soon after the property above built a swimming pool over it, maybe using the outflow as a water supply.

There is a similar situation at Carbis Water in Cornwall.

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Posted: 22/06/2020 14:06:32
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I vaguely remember the portal of the adit being there in the late 80s but not going anywhere.

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Posted: 22/06/2020 14:28:24
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Who owns it nowadays? Is it in private ownership or local authority, or ? In the Nineties I met someone nearby who was researching for a book about the mine. He or someone else said they were trying to turn it into a local tourist attraction, but possibly just the above ground workings, buildings, etc? IP: 5.80.91.50
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Posted: 22/06/2020 17:06:18
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In the early 1990s I worked there with Simon Hughes, excavating the old dressing floors - there was quite a lot of stuff found under the jig-tailings too. That was prior to the reclamation programme. I also found a WW1 spigot-bomb in excellent nick that I kept in the digger cab for about a fortnight, rattling around whilst I was digging, thinking it was a large pestle for pulverising assay samples! The Hereford boys came for it once we realised what it was and that it was perfectly live - eek! But I managed NOT to find the Home Guard stash of white phosphorous shells. A driver on the reclamation project itself hit the first one which detonated in his bucket, and the Army located dozens more subsequently! IP: 86.139.53.229
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Posted: 23/06/2020 12:43:23
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Van Miller wrote:

Old photos of Van Mine near Llanidloes. Thank you for your kind response, but I’m also on the hunt for photos. I will ask my extended family if they have any they can dig out. I fear they won’t be of much interest to you mine explorers, though. Any that have been passed down are likely to be above ground family- focused. The Van mine has a place in our family folklore, but for my mother and sisters it was something of a place of doom, because when they were still teenagers, it collapsed economically, evidently taking any family wealth with it! Having done some potholing in my younger days, I find your mine exploration fascinating. If you have a chance to explore the Van Mine I should be delighted to hear about it.


As a local I would be very interested to see old photos of the surface workings, as they do appear to be rare. I'm sure Llanidloes Museum would also be interested.

Van Miller wrote:

Who owns it nowadays? Is it in private ownership or local authority, or ? In the Nineties I met someone nearby who was researching for a book about the mine. He or someone else said they were trying to turn it into a local tourist attraction, but possibly just the above ground workings, buildings, etc?


Most of it now appears to be under private ownership although I think the Pool and the old railway loading area is owned by the Council.
There was a book written about the mine sometime ago, and other publications:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Van-Mines-Nigel-Chapman/dp/0901450618
IP: 87.115.77.36 Edited: 23/06/2020 12:51:17 by Llanigraham
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Posted: 23/06/2020 13:29:43
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I have to admit to a load of old photographs in digital form which I cannot really upload without permission from Simon Hughes who was kind enough to give them to me. I dont see Simon these days and am unsure of how he is as he has health problems.

I dont know whether you ever get to see him John?

I have one somewhere which may or may not be Van mine which shows a truck on rails on a stand being used as a fend off from a waterwheel power train.

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Posted: 23/06/2020 19:23:59
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royfellows wrote:

I have to admit to a load of old photographs in digital form which I cannot really upload without permission from Simon Hughes who was kind enough to give them to me. I dont see Simon these days and am unsure of how he is as he has health problems.

I dont know whether you ever get to see him John?

I have one somewhere which may or may not be Van mine which shows a truck on rails on a stand being used as a fend off from a waterwheel power train.


I'd be interested to see that one, Roy.
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Posted: 23/06/2020 19:29:33
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I had quite a conversation with Simon about it at the time, he expressed the opinion that it was Van, and I have no reason to disagree. It is impossible to identify any background features that would place it however.

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Posted: 23/06/2020 19:34:39
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Has anyone ever been into the workings themselves?

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Posted: 24/06/2020 17:56:49
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I have just dug out my copy of British Mining no 81 by Nigel Chapman. It seems that most of the photos I had off Simon are in the book. Just a heads up on this.

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Posted: 24/06/2020 20:43:31
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Blober wrote:

Has anyone ever been into the workings themselves?


Not in living memory IIRC. The mine flooded to adit after closure. Everything down there is presumably as it was left.
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Posted: 26/06/2020 16:11:14
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I used to live a few miles from Van and used to knock around there for my own interest and for professional reasons. I did have access to various consultant's documents (including reports from Simon Hughes). These may be on record with Powys CC. There was a lot of remediation carried out, as at the time the Afon Cerist was one of the most polluted watercourses in Mid Wales. It was just mine spoil, the area had been used as a tip for other wastes. IIRC there was a story that the wastes from Aberystwyth's gasworks had been dumped there. The main adit is on private land and is inaccessible, with a culvert carrying the discharge. The large portal that everyone assumes is the entrance is in fact the loading bay for the rail link. Part of the mine consists of the 'Van flats', a lode of about 15 degrees? There was talk that they had back filled this area as they worked. IP: 86.128.27.206
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Posted: 26/06/2020 17:26:43
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Ha, yes the loading bay. I had an argument with a local about it years ago who insisted it was "the way into the mine", regardless of the ore passes.

I searched for any trace at all of the adit without success, the tramway piers should logically point to it. I suspect it was all bulldozed in.

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