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Cromford Moor Sough
Posted: 30/01/2020 12:04:51
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Spotted this item for sale

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/canterbury-auction-galleries/catalogue-id-srcan10049/lot-77ee4f04-4376-481c-954d-ab4a00df768e

Commemorative ('disaster') glasses seem popular in the Northern Coalfields, but haven't seen many from metalliferous mining areas.
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Posted: 30/01/2020 17:02:08
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Thanks for posting that link, I've passed it on to my fellow members of PDMHS council and asked whether we want to try and acquire it for the Mining Museum.

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Posted: 09/02/2020 16:23:53
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PDMHS were originally intending to bid on this, with the offer of donations from a number of members but on finding out Buxton Museum were bidding we decided to put the pledged donations (with the consent of those offering support) behind them so enabling them to increase their bid. Sadly, they were outbid at the auction yesterday so it looks like the glass will go into a private collection.

Lynn Willies has seen a similar glass in private hands in Derbyshire, though with a Hillcarr Sough inscription. I also contacted Dave Webb, who does have an interest in 18th century glass and he informed me that he once saw a glass at auction with a coal-mining related inscription, though it went for way beyond the price it would do without an inscription, so the purchaser may have wanted the Cromford glass for its rarity value (it's otherwise a fairly commonplace ale glass).

However, I spoke to the auction house last week and they kindly provided some good-quality images of the glass, along with permission to reproduce them with the appropriate credits so we at least do have a good record of it.

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Posted: 09/02/2020 18:34:01
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Shame it didn't go to a 'local' museum, but at least you got some good photographs. As I mentioned, I didn't realise they were produced to commemorate other mining stuff other than accidents & disasters.

I'll be looking out for them from now on!
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Posted: 10/02/2020 09:06:24
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We're having one last roll of the dice; the glass was one of a lot of five and some of the others were top-notch wine glasses so it may be that the buyer was more interested in them. Our secretary has contacted the auction house and they have agreed to pass on a message to the buyer enquiring whether they would be willing to sell the inscribed glass - nothing ventured and all that....

I've also had permission from the auction house to reproduce their photos of the glass, with the usual requirement to credit appropriately, so here's a better shot of the glass and its inscription:


(click image to open full size image in new window)

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Posted: 10/02/2020 20:59:59
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Good idea - I'm a PDMHS member, so keeping my fingers crossed that it works out. Keep us posted on the outcome? IP: 84.92.35.248
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Posted: 10/02/2020 21:56:31
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It'll be covered in the next newsletter whichever way it goes, though if the buyer does prove willing to sell it to Buxton Museum I'll be posting the news here.

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Posted: 11/02/2020 01:25:53
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It would be nice to have that as a PDMHS artifact, as a member I would cough up a few bawbees to buy it !

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Posted: 11/02/2020 10:37:54
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Sounds good, it's a nice piece for sure! Thumb Up IP: 195.171.131.2
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Posted: 11/02/2020 11:39:49
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We'll just have to wait now and see whether the buyer responds. If so, and people do want to donate it will need to be to Buxton Museum, not to PDMHS.

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