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Author Nenthead mines - collapse
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Nenthead mines - collapse
Posted: 25/04/2019 18:51:55
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Please be aware that there is a major collapse in Rampgill along Hanginshaws branch. This has occurred within the last 3 days.

It is no longer possible to reach the fixed ladder up to Proud Sump flats. Anyone undertaking an abseil trip through from Smallcleugh to Proud Sump flats should take full SRT kit as they will have to reverse the route.

As a further warning, when we reached the fall from the inbye side, an oxygen level of less than 16.5 percent was encountered.

The fall consists of very large boulders and seems to be pretty substantial.

Futher investigations will follow from the outbye side on Friday.

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Posted: 26/04/2019 10:00:31
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That's not good news - the condition of all mine-workings is on an inevitable path of decline and the best we can do is to delay the inevitable by making routes as safe as we can, and being aware of alternative routes where possible. It's one of the fundamental differences between natural caves and mines, and should be something we are constantly aware of. IP: 85.115.54.201
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Posted: 27/04/2019 17:53:15
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So...

Who is keen to lend a hand digging?
It’s a popular “trade-route” that needs to stay open.
Any help would be appreciated, for sure...

Leif.
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Posted: 27/04/2019 18:17:05
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Bad news indeed. I'm assuming its one of the hoppers that have collapsed and run?

I'll be happy to pitch in, other commitments permitting

MARK

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Posted: 27/04/2019 18:40:41
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Some progress has been made over last day or two, but it may take a while. As ever, GNick + team of helpers have been enthusiastically moving scaffolding etc up to the sharp end.

Warning signs have been posted at Proud Sump. These will remain until the problem (sorry, challenge) is resolved.

Unfortunately the Easter visitors are leaving tomorrow, so he may be seeking more local assistance.
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Posted: 27/04/2019 20:30:55
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As ever, I’ll be digging with him.
Mark - get yourself there, mate!

Good job to all of those who have made a start on it.
Nick’ll no doubt appreciate that.

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Posted: 27/04/2019 20:54:35
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Current status is that the dig is just about stable and we have got air and water flow. The water is about 3 feet deeper on the inbye side and currently verging on suicidal to try and get inbye from the fall.

Don't expect to be able to get out from Proud's Flats.

This, along with last year's collapse in Smallcleugh, should give all of us a serious reminder of what we explore. Just because you have been there loads of times does not mean that it is safe.

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Posted: 28/04/2019 19:52:30
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Just been in to have a look.
Great job already done, but work to do shouldn't be underestimated. Large boulders, long walk in, limited working /stowage space and deep water.
But sounds quite normal for you Nick.Thumbs Up
Let us all know how and when we can help.
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Posted: 29/04/2019 00:58:31
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Hi Nick any chance you could post photos so we can see what we are up against .Wink IP: 86.26.226.247
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Posted: 29/04/2019 09:24:59
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I forgot the camera when I was last in - carrying scaffold poles was a bit of a distraction! I'll take some pics on Thursday.

As a bit of a rough idea, the level is double width and effectively double height and the hopper was a big one, the space is pretty much filled. A LOT of stuff has come down. The thigh deep water on the outbye side does make building pack walls a bit awkward.

There's a big rock towards the bottom which might be the cause of the collapse, it has dropped and burst a pack wall (the hopper was empty).

On the positive side there isn't a big hole in Carrs Mine, or at least not one in an accessible area...

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Posted: 29/04/2019 16:03:53
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Thanks Nick thank god the hopper was empty. IP: 86.26.226.247
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Posted: 30/04/2019 10:30:19
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kroca wrote:

Thanks Nick thank god the hopper was empty.

I think there would have been less debris if it had been full but...

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Posted: 03/05/2019 15:28:02
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Any volunteers to lend a hand?

There must be someone - How many folk have travelled that passage in the past?
How about “putting something back in”?
Even if it’s just acting Sherpa?
Nick has made a good start - still A LOT to shift though, the fall is a big ‘un.
Anything would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted: 06/05/2019 09:57:23
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TheCret!n wrote:

Any volunteers to lend a hand?

There must be someone - How many folk have travelled that passage in the past?
How about “putting something back in”?
Even if it’s just acting Sherpa?
Nick has made a good start - still A LOT to shift though, the fall is a big ‘un.
Anything would be greatly appreciated.

Leif.

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Posted: 06/05/2019 12:29:15
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It is indeed a date Big Grin
I'll be up at the Assay House by about 5.

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Posted: 06/05/2019 13:59:19
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regret have to tender my Apologies - my Dance Card is full this week.

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Posted: 24/05/2019 09:27:32
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There is now a safe route through the fall, the water level inbye is only a little higher than on the outbye side and no unpleasant crawling is required.

Thanks to the dig team and all the extra willing helpers who have helped to carry stuff in and out, build walls, throw rocks and stand around getting cold and wet. Thumbs Up

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Posted: 24/05/2019 09:44:12
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Well done, thank you for your efforts IP: 51.9.132.105
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Posted: 24/05/2019 10:15:52
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Good job, Nick!

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Posted: 24/05/2019 10:51:45
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Thanks Nick, Leif and everybody who pitched in.

I hope my armchair encouragement from the sidelines proved invaluable Flowers

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