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Paul Marvin

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Posted: 25/04/2019 11:53:59
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Yes or No Guys ? I know there are some sensitive members on here !

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Peter Burgess

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Posted: 25/04/2019 12:21:45
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Better elsewhere, in my opinion. Not bothered if that's a minority view, though. IP: 85.115.54.201
Paul Marvin

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Posted: 25/04/2019 17:14:10
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will see what others say

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Peter Burgess

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Posted: 25/04/2019 18:18:30
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Is there any reason why not to post on UKCaving? IP: 209.93.224.5
John Lawson

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Posted: 25/04/2019 19:57:43
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I personally feel that posting videos is a good idea!
However, I think the experience would be more informative if there was linkage to either the abandonment plan or another well known workings plan.
Far too many seem to be going somewhere underground but not having any direction of where and why the trip is taking place
If this linkage took place then the whole video would have a sense of direction, whearas, most of the ones I have seen do not have this at all.Ban Me
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ttxela

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Posted: 25/04/2019 21:53:38
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Hello John

I often think it would be nice to do that, however in many cases that would give the game away regarding the location of the site and possibly vulnerable artifacts etc. Whilst this is less of an issue on this site it might be undesirable in the wider youtube sense as discussed on the responsible exploring/sensitive sites thread.

The vagueness in my videos is deliberate although I try to give general information about the nature of the mine and some idea what is going on etc. I feel this is more appropriate for a wider youtube audience rather than a 'this is exactly where we are on the survey' kind of approach - as nice as it would be to do that if other concerns weren't necessary to consider Sad

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Paul Marvin

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Posted: 25/04/2019 22:08:56
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Peter Burgess wrote:

Is there any reason why not to post on UKCaving?


I hate that forum to many bun fights

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Paul Marvin

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Posted: 25/04/2019 22:12:07
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Hello John

I often think it would be nice to do that, however in many cases that would give the game away regarding the location of the site and possibly vulnerable artifacts etc. Whilst this is less of an issue on this site it might be undesirable in the wider youtube sense as discussed on the responsible exploring/sensitive sites thread.

The vagueness in my videos is deliberate although I try to give general information about the nature of the mine and some idea what is going on etc. I feel this is more appropriate for a wider youtube audience rather than a 'this is exactly where we are on the survey' kind of approach - as nice as it would be to do that if other concerns weren't necessary to consider Sad



Ha Ha I cant win I get hammered if I post things saying what they are and then get the same for saying not enough info, cant please everybody I suppose CryingCrying

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Peter Burgess

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Posted: 25/04/2019 23:06:09
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You are specifically asking about CAVING videos, not MINE ones?

I don't have an issue with mining ones, I just thought caving ones were not so relevant here.
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Posted: 25/04/2019 23:58:23
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Paul Marvin wrote:

ttxela wrote:

Hello John

I often think it would be nice to do that, however in many cases that would give the game away regarding the location of the site and possibly vulnerable artifacts etc. Whilst this is less of an issue on this site it might be undesirable in the wider youtube sense as discussed on the responsible exploring/sensitive sites thread.

The vagueness in my videos is deliberate although I try to give general information about the nature of the mine and some idea what is going on etc. I feel this is more appropriate for a wider youtube audience rather than a 'this is exactly where we are on the survey' kind of approach - as nice as it would be to do that if other concerns weren't necessary to consider Sad



Ha Ha I cant win I get hammered if I post things saying what they are and then get the same for saying not enough info, cant please everybody I suppose CryingCrying


This the Internet mate, you can't EVER win ??
Everyone's right and wrong at the same time.
Take a vote and go with the consensus of opinion....taking care to disregard the ones you don't like or don't agree with ??

Personally I love your videos and cave diving vids would be great to see. But would you respect the decision NOT to post them on a mind exploration site. In the same way that I wouldn't post motor racing videos or game shooting.
Dunno....?? Help!



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Peter Burgess

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Posted: 26/04/2019 00:05:05
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Paul Marvin wrote:

Peter Burgess wrote:

Is there any reason why not to post on UKCaving?


I hate that forum to many bun fights
Well, the question had to be asked! Laugh
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Posted: 26/04/2019 06:57:39
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Really sensitive sites, just put up a quick explanation stating that they are, and you will not be giving out the location.
Most people are reasonable, and respect that : they can imagine it as saying "Yes, you are responsible, but this is for all the muppets out there who aren't"

Oh, and I've no issues with caving videos either. But I can understand those that would have, I suppose.
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Posted: 26/04/2019 07:42:54
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Plenty of people post stuff that's only very loosely connected to mining (other industrial stuff, climbing, etc) so I don't see a problem with the odd bit of caving content posted by someone with a history of posting interesting, well made videos. IP: 188.71.246.28
ttxela

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Posted: 26/04/2019 08:25:15
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Cat_Bones wrote:

Plenty of people post stuff that's only very loosely connected to mining (other industrial stuff, climbing, etc) so I don't see a problem with the odd bit of caving content posted by someone with a history of posting interesting, well made videos.


Yes, I think that's fair enough. Why not post them in the 'Pub' section, which is intended for non mine related stuff Thumb Up
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Posted: 26/04/2019 09:27:12
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ttxela wrote:

Why not post them in the 'Pub' section, which is intended for non mine related stuff Thumb Up


I'd second this.Thumb Up If you haven't already got access to the Pub you just need to ask the admins. I don't think caving videos ought to be posted in the main part of the site, which is devoted to mine exploration and mining history. However it's really a decision for SimonRL to make.
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Posted: 26/04/2019 10:19:59
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skimble wrote:

ttxela wrote:

Why not post them in the 'Pub' section, which is intended for non mine related stuff Thumb Up


I'd second this.Thumb Up If you haven't already got access to the Pub you just need to ask the admins. I don't think caving videos ought to be posted in the main part of the site, which is devoted to mine exploration and mining history. However it's really a decision for SimonRL to make.



I vote for this Thumbs Up


@Skimble: unconnected but did you get my e-mails the other day?



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ttxela

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Posted: 26/04/2019 12:53:24
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Another option might be to start a Member Journal, I've put cave related stuff into mine and no-one has visited me in the night with pliers and a blowtorch as yet....... IP: 195.171.131.2
Boy Engineer

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Posted: 26/04/2019 14:03:21
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and no-one has visited me in the night with pliers and a blowtorch as yet.......

That’s only because we haven’t tracked your house down yet.LaughShocked
Please be aware that we won’t actually light the blowtorch due to concerns over CO2 emissions. So just the pliers. We’re trying to keep the violence sustainable and it saves buying carbon offsets.
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Posted: 26/04/2019 16:24:41
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Boy Engineer wrote:

and no-one has visited me in the night with pliers and a blowtorch as yet.......

That’s only because we haven’t tracked your house down yet.LaughShocked
Please be aware that we won’t actually light the blowtorch due to concerns over CO2 emissions. So just the pliers. We’re trying to keep the violence sustainable and it saves buying carbon offsets.


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Boy Engineer

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Posted: 26/04/2019 16:53:00
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Mr Blonde goes green?

It's a long time since this Mr Blonde had enough hair to dye it. Although he did try two colours......(you only dye twice).
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