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Posted: 29/10/2018 22:22:04
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45997370

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Posted: 30/10/2018 19:27:37
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In my opinion, no, this is a disaster. It will essentially freeze the landscape in stone (pardon the pun). Any sort of future industry and employment will be limited to tourism.

I certainly wouldn't want to run any sort of business under that kind of burden.

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Posted: 30/10/2018 19:55:20
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I don't actually think the plan is just a blanket coverage over the entire slate belt(s), Presumably it will center on places like Dinorwic, Dorothea, Cwmorthin, Rhosydd and Maenofferen, probably some others like Moel Fferna, and stuff down Corris way.
The only really viable option out of those is Maenofferen for continued working.
I highly doubt it will affect any current working quarries, considering its places like the slate museum behind the bid I HIGHLY doubt they would want to affect any current operating quarries considering how many ex quarrymen work at the museum.

Wales only major industry now IS tourism, I'd like to be wrong but i'm not convinced we're suddenly going to get an influx of quarries wanting to start up again or even creating a new quarry somewhere.

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Posted: 31/10/2018 12:10:23
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I wonder what would happen to access to some of these places if there is loads more tourists around.

I can't see the big tempting hole that is Rhosydd no 9. adit or any other of the currently ungated mines being left open.

Would the effects be the same as if the area was put into Snowdonia national park when it was created?
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Posted: 31/10/2018 12:20:15
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It's not really going to change much there will likely just be more money for conservation.

The slate trail has been open for awhile now and that goes past rhosydd, as well as most other big quarries. There hasn't been an increase in callouts or the like due to that. The volume of water in no9 is enough to put most people off.

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Posted: 31/10/2018 13:10:39
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Blober wrote:



The slate trail has been open for awhile now and that goes past rhosydd, as well as most other big quarries. There hasn't been an increase in callouts or the like due to that. The volume of water in no9 is enough to put most people off.


I guess the sort of people who would walk the slate trail are more into the history of slate and have either seen whats inside or have read about it. Croesor is probably more likely to have issues with people. Everytime I have been there I probably have seen less than 10 people out and about, how much would UNESCO status raise the footfall of the areas affected?

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Posted: 31/10/2018 17:10:19
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alex17595 wrote:

how much would UNESCO status raise the footfall of the areas affected?


Unfortunately this is all about money in grants, and fact finding trips for big wigs.

I also feel that it would be detrimental to any proposal to actually work Slate in the area.
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Posted: 31/10/2018 18:48:32
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If used properly WHS status can prove a powerful marketing tool. It is also useful for leveraging grants.

Whilst in itself the designation does not provide any additional protection to the designated site, it usually will be taken into account in determining development decisions.

If the Cornwall/West Devon model proves true in Wales there will be a huge fanfare, lots of initial expenditure, one or two consultants will drive away in new Range Rovers (to use a Stuey - ism) then it will all go quiet after a few years as the people who drove the inscription process move on to pastures new.

I strongly recommend that the local mine exploration community gets involved in the process in order to flag up your interests. If you are not at the table your views won't get taken into account.
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