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Posted: 03/09/2018 22:36:39
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45402874

Anyone know where this was?

I note that the rescue took 18 hours (20:00 until 14:00 the next day) because the fire service "could not abseil down in the dark to rescue the dog."

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Posted: 04/09/2018 00:09:56
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From the Penrhyn-coch location probably somewhere on the south eastern corner of this map.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101607730
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Posted: 04/09/2018 05:18:57
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When it was dark outside or dark inside?

Makes you wonder...
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Posted: 04/09/2018 07:42:48
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joso wrote:

When it was dark outside or dark inside?

Makes you wonder...


Laugh
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Posted: 04/09/2018 08:19:52
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Just a side issue! what about the welfare of the poor animal? IP: 213.205.194.33
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Posted: 04/09/2018 08:36:38
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Well, as they say on station,

"At every incident, the greater the potential benefit of fire and rescue actions, the greater the risk that is accepted by commanders and firefighters. Activities that present a high risk to safety are limited to those that have the potential to save life or to prevent rapid and significant escalation of the incident."

Doesn't really roll off the tongue...
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Posted: 05/09/2018 00:04:18
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Put the fire brigade in charge and this is what happens.

Put enough people together and call them mine rescue and they will start ripping chunks off each other.

Cornwall Mine Rescue has once again eaten it's own tail at the behest of some utter helmets. It is more unstable than rubidium azide.

I suppose we'd better call the CBC if something fucks up, because first off you get the fire brigade, who are tooled up for things on fire, then you get the surface rescue team, who all think they are david hasslehoff and eventually someone with skill gets called in, but a couple of the hasslehoffs have a political problem with the caving beards and it all just descends into silliness. The best idea is to throw a load of petrol down the shaft, light it so the thing suffocates, it is a more dignified ending than watching the ridiculous fiasco of hi viz chumps with their method statement and procedural testes.

Funk them all.
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Posted: 05/09/2018 09:46:08
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I have counted 20 rescuers in the photo but cannot see any helicopters.
Years ago a dog fell down Francis's Shaft at Goginan and Simon Hughes and a couple of his mates rescued it. No fuss, no bother.

I once got a sheep out of the opencast at Frongoch, they SMELL!

I dont know the mine in this one, and am around there a lot, no doubt someone with knowledge will be along in due course.

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Posted: 05/09/2018 10:20:11
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Well it's nice to see that South Wales Fire & Rescue have got some use out of their nice shiny rescue pod / Thunderbird 2 thingy.

I wonder if a call to a local cave rescue team might have got the dog out sooner? Cave rescue are usually more used to abseiling in the dark... Laugh



On an entirely random note, I did a quick search to confirm that USAR are the people I thought they were (they are) - and this came up:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/usar_skills_payments_18

That question hasn't been answered, but the same person appears to have made the same request to every UK Fire (yeah, and Rescue) Service.

The answer from Lancashire about pay is this:

All USAR personnel are on Day Crewing Plus (DCP) Stations and have the same payments as any other DCP personnel - there is no additional allowance for the USAR capability.

On call as above - DCP terms; Recall paid in line with grey book (and all other operational personnel) minimum of 3 hrs and thereafter in 15 min blocks all at double time. Recall is not a part of the planning assumptions and would only be used in exceptional circumstances.


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Posted: 05/09/2018 14:20:45
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Luckily the USAR team is in Aberystwyth at the moment so perhaps the dog could still be waiting down there otherwise! IP: 94.197.120.230
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Posted: 05/09/2018 17:50:37
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I think this is the Engine Shaft at Elgar Mine, on the hillside opposite Penycefn and near Mynydd Gorddu Mine above Penrhyncoch. In the background of the group photo you can see the tip from one of the East Penycefn adits on the far hillside. IP: 213.205.198.73
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Posted: 05/09/2018 18:19:54
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Being a fast mover I have just uploaded some pics, a few years back, 1996.

Engine Shaft from just above the wheel pit.



(click image to open full size image in new window)

I have been pondering on how the dog could fall 80 feet and be uninjured, more than I could do with all my karate body hardness and fancy aikido breakfalls!

The shaft is well and truly blocked before it reaches the adit which it cuts on the left going inbye.

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Posted: 05/09/2018 18:43:46
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I wonder how accurate the 80 feet measurement is... how deep would you say is the shaft before becoming blocked Roy? IP: 213.205.198.73
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Posted: 05/09/2018 20:14:28
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Roy

Back in 2009 MCRO rescued a dog that fell over 120' to water in a vertical shaft in the Old Grit Mine in Shropshire. Fortunately there was a small cut alcove that the dog was able to shelter in, whilst it patiently waited for deliverance.

It emerged unharmed from its rapid descent, but the rescuer required a tetanus jab from the dog bites. There's gratitude.
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Posted: 05/09/2018 22:32:55
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Rheidol United wrote:

I wonder how accurate the 80 feet measurement is... how deep would you say is the shaft before becoming blocked Roy?


I will have a look at OT Jones in the morning, just got in and food on.

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Posted: 05/09/2018 22:47:50
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When I were a lad me and my cousin went exploring round the remains of an old beam engine house next to the local reservoir. It had been bricked up but local kids had undertaken their own archaeological dig and uncovered a way into the building. Via it turns out the water out/in let tunnel leading straight from the main pumping shaft. Now the weather had been pretty dry at the time (one of the long hot summers of youth and all that!) so the shaft had no water in it. Which was just as well since my dog saved my life that day after running past us (as we crawled toward that 70ft shaft) with our lousy torches only revealing the top of the shaft until the dog disappeared down it just ahead of us. So I can definitively say that dogs can survive a fall down a 70ft shaft and go on to live a long life. Oh and by the way it was the local fire brigade who got her out, my parents nearly had a coronary at the sight of two fire engines and a specialist rescue truck thing... until the chief fire officer told them it was not going to cost them anything as they were treating it as an exercise. Admittedly that was in the old days not sure the local fire brigade still has two engines let alone a specialist rescue vehicle. Nice to see that fire and rescue folks still value a dogs life enough to go down there and get it...
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Posted: 06/09/2018 08:28:32
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royfellows wrote:

I have counted 20 rescuers in the photo but cannot see any helicopters.
Years ago a dog fell down Francis's Shaft at Goginan and Simon Hughes and a couple of his mates rescued it. No fuss, no bother.

I once got a sheep out of the opencast at Frongoch, they SMELL!

I dont know the mine in this one, and am around there a lot, no doubt someone with knowledge will be along in due course.


Simon and I once got a substantial heifer out of a shaft at Penybanc, above Talybont, between the two of us. It went on to be a quality deliverer of calves!
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