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royfellows

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Narrow gauge sack truck: transporting sand bags UG
Posted: 28/04/2018 13:37:50
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A modified broken folding sack truck as sold everywhere has been modified to a narrow gauge suitable for digging sites.



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One of my digs is presenting difficulty as the distance to tip is becoming a project stopper. There is room on top of the made up pack wall and it occurred that I could put stuff into sand bags and lay on top. The truck is so good though that the distance will possibly no longer matter.
The problem with the trucks as they come is that they far too wide, the wheel lock mechanism breaks within a short time anyway, so then is the chance for a bit of mod.

You might find a broken one being thrown out.

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Posted: 28/04/2018 16:50:55
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wheelbarrow wheels minus tyre fitted on a suitable axle and platform have been used in Weardale. IP: 146.198.111.139
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Posted: 28/04/2018 19:38:40
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PeteJ wrote:

wheelbarrow wheels minus tyre fitted on a suitable axle and platform have been used in Weardale.

Using scaffold poles as rails

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Posted: 29/04/2018 08:09:38
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Posted: 30/04/2018 01:48:49
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legendrider wrote:



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What a great idea Thumbs Up

We had a dig in a very narrow adit and built a long box with two wheelbarrow wheels, one in front of the other, It couldn't fall over as the adit was too narrow for that. We shifted tons with that truck, and 3 years later it still had air in the tyres. I'll see if I can dig out a pic.

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Posted: 30/04/2018 08:20:56
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That's the Mk1 version. Mk2 would carry two off standard council green recycling boxes back to back, loading to around 2 to 3 hundred weights at a time (100 to 150 kg if you prefer). Scaffolding poles as track, gauge around 10 inches between rails - although not critical due to the deliberately designed play on the axles. As mentioned, we used four wheel barrow wheels minus tyres.

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Posted: 30/04/2018 09:15:43
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I think that the scale of my operation is somewhat smaller than yours
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Posted: 30/04/2018 17:17:36
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In reply to both Roys

We found that the railed bogie was a real game-changer in terms of shifting spoil. Moved several tons 100 yards THROUGH an existing dig (therefore tight!) to nearest usable dump. The slight downhill slope enabled the trammer (me), to give the tub a good running bobsleigh push, then lie flat on top, hurtling through the first dig and out to the tip. ebgb tried it and is still receiving physio from colliding with one of the setts!

Of course there are no hard and fast rules, just whatever works in your particular circumstances. What is true, is that a bit of thought given to site prep and spoil clearance is never wasted - less chance of you trying to dig surrounded by your own molehills!

MARK

PS heres another pic of the Flyer II

https://www.aditnow.co.uk/Photo/Minime_102151/

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Posted: 01/05/2018 21:29:26
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This seems to be the only picture I have of the 'Inline' truck. We shifted an awful lot of muck with that little truck.
We got our breakthrough in the end and it served its purpose well.



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Posted: 01/05/2018 21:44:51
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Roy, what a nice little level, looks hand picked.
Anything you can say about on a public forum?

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Posted: 02/05/2018 10:05:31
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Nice work, RoyM. 10/10 for inventiveness!!

we had the luxury of a 4ft wide x 6ft tall arched level, positively spacious by comparison.

For the second dig (the Chamber of Horrors) we set the tub rails to one side, leaving 2ft of width to store fresh muck out of the dig. It was either sandbagged and stockpiled for re-use, or kept in the tub and trammed out.
This division of space and labour (one digging out, one mucking out, one bagging up, one tramming & tipping) made for very good progress.



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Posted: 03/05/2018 10:56:34
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Well Roy, this dig was done over 25 years ago and the land in question is now in private ownership. Access I haven't got a clue about any more. Location wise it's within walking distance of my place. From last report about 10 years ago, the dig has collapsed again.
All in all it ran for about 300 yds to a shaft (choked) with a small dogleg about half way, where the tunnel had been driven from both ends.
The shaft is accessible at surface down to the choke, with a few small hand worked stopes.
I'll pm you later Smile

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